Our Thing Called Life
Hosted by cousins Ayowande and Oyinlola, Our Thing Called Life is an extension of your family group chat. From faith and family to culture, relationships and the questions we're still figuring out, your favourite cousins are navigating this thing called life out loud.
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Our Thing Called Life
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This episode starts off a little more mellow than usual as we catch up on life and discuss why Oyinlola has been a bit sad lately. Don’t worry though, the energy picks up! You can’t keep a bad bitch down for too long!!!
We then get into a conversation about body image and just how comfortable Nigerian adults seem to feel commenting on other people’s bodies, whether they’ve been invited to or not.
We also share some truly unbelievable Nigerian vendor horror stories that will either make you laugh, cry, or both. Hope you enjoy 🩷
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I think basketball is a really enjoyable sport.
SPEAKER_05The only thing about it is that like I have to disagree. The game is so long. No, it is really enjoyable.
SPEAKER_04It's just going back and forth. What what what is football?
SPEAKER_07No, no, no, no, no, no. There's a loss that happens in the midfield in football. The pitch is actually bigger. The pitch is actually bigger. It's killing me. Like, are you good? Um, Uncle Stan's smudge ups. They blocked my phone number. Like, they are insane people. Um, and it's just such a shame that they have good smudch ups.
SPEAKER_02Which branch? Which branch? Which branch? The one in Lecky.
SPEAKER_07So I couldn't order on WhatsApp. So I had to go in store. And when I went in store, and she was like, Oh, why didn't you order online? I said, Because you people blocked me, bro.
SPEAKER_00Like, I'm sorry, you're kidding me. You're actually kidding me. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_04Hi friends. Hi family. I'm Winola. I'm Ayawan D, your favorite cousin. Navigating this thing called life. And welcome to our thing called life. Enjoy. See ya.
SPEAKER_07Hello. Hello. Hi friends. Hi, friends. Hi family. Hi everybody. Hi, frenemies. My energy is a bit low today, but hopefully, as we record this podcast, or as we record this episode, my energy will worry. Your energy is already coming back. Your energy is already coming back. Life has just been life. It's been a week. Like it's been somewhat of a week.
SPEAKER_03It has, hasn't it?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, but you know what? It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's not fine, is it? It's not. It's not fine right now, but it will be. Like, I just feel like as I um It will be fine.
SPEAKER_03It'll be fine. I'll be fine. Okay, I actually would love to unpack a little bit. Like, I maybe you don't have to tell everybody what do you want to unpack? I would just love to unpack what is going on and what exactly is making you feel like it's not fine.
SPEAKER_07Um you don't have to go into the details. I just feel like there's a lot of things that are not going right. Um that's just very frustrating, essentially. So And that is from a personal perspective or a work perspective or like I think personality perspective. Work um just like life is just kind of like lifeing. There's only like again, there's just there's just a lot of things that haven't gone right this week. And it's just been like have they been things out of your control? Um for the most part, yeah. Okay. And so it's just very like jarring when it's just like one thing after another after another. It's fine if it's just like one thing and then it's like okay, whatever. And then if it's like one thing after another, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, it's just like, gosh, can't catch a break.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I saw you posted, I don't know if it was this week or last week, but you posted like a really aggressive message on your close friends, and I was like, okay, like I know you like are feeling this way, but like I haven't seen you express this in such an aggressive manner, and I didn't really understand what it is, like I didn't really understand what was triggering you to feel this way. Yeah, I don't know if someone at work is just annoying you, or maybe you're just over the current state.
SPEAKER_07Because I know that people that I work with listen to this podcast, which is I hate. What I will say is No, we love that they listen. Oh no, we love that. Thank you.
SPEAKER_06Hello, this is it, this is a safe space though, guys. Thank you.
SPEAKER_07For both of us, for both of our colleagues that listen to this podcast, it is a safe space for us. For us, please. Yes, I think what it is is that they have just I'm trying to figure out I'm trying to figure out like the best way to say to say this, but I think that I I've been taken for granted a lot where I work, and I think that um they just continue to do it. And it happened again this week. Yeah, it happened again this week, but then it happened in a manner that I just really didn't like, and I hate when they like dangle something in your face, and then they take it away, essentially. Um, and they've been doing that to me multiple times, like they're just consistently doing it to me. Um yeah, and so I think this week I I just I had just I've reached my wits end and I just couldn't take it anymore. Um, and I had like a really long conversation about it with my manager as well, but like there's only so much that there's only so much that she can do though, like yeah, um, and also I feel like white people don't really understand um that like everything isn't about race, but everything is about race. Like I I don't I don't know how else to explain it, but like there's certain things that are happening that like you just wouldn't do this to a white person. Um and if I complain about it, oh you're just an angry woman, oh you're just this, or and then it's like it's like I'm not even allowed to feel the way that I feel because I will be labeled as this angry black woman, or I'll be labeled as like too emotional. Um I remember one time, this was like maybe two years ago, I was frustrated about something, the way everyone is frustrated about things, and I voiced my frustration um to my manager, because she asked me a question. I I had a different manager at the time, voiced my frustration to her, and she said to me, You need to learn to manage your emotions better. Bearing in mind, I didn't raise my voice, I didn't yell, I didn't scream. She just asked me, like, oh, how is it going on ex campaign? And I told her that like it's really stressful at the moment, like, you know, there's just there's a lot going on and it's like it's overwhelming, is what I told her. And she told me I need to learn to manage my emotions. Whereas like other people are allowed to like yell and scream and make literally make a nuisance of themselves in the office. But I I'm not allowed to do that because the minute I do, I'm not managing my emotions properly. Um so yeah, it's it's just been a really like just yeah, it's just it's just it's been a bit of a shitty week, but it's fine.
SPEAKER_03Um I think that that's um first of all, I hate that you've had to go through that because I mean, if there's anyone in this world that will tell you how much of a superstar you are, it's me.
SPEAKER_07And I hate I hate, I hate to think that you are in an environment where people are not appreciative or not um you're not being celebrated enough. And again, it's not as it's not even as if you're looking for praise, right? But it's maybe being overlooked, overseen, being you know, belittled here and there, or just even taken for granted in so many different ways. And I I hate I hate that that is happening because I'm just like these people like people do not realize and maybe they have not fully seen like you are someone that is such an um asset to them, and I think it's one of those things that will be felt the moment like you leave, right?
SPEAKER_03And yeah, finally might just be like, okay, whatever, they have other people, blah blah blah.
SPEAKER_07But I I just think that like because of your passion and love for what it is and the space that you're working in, you know, it's such a shame that you don't recognize talents like that and start to like develop that talent, like hey, because we have a gem here, yeah, right. And the moment this if we can just take time to really develop this gem, we are gonna reap so much more from it. They don't care, and again, like yeah, because they don't see it, they don't see it, right? They just are seeing you as someone who's like, okay, we know that this is a stable pair of hands. And the worst part about it is that when they have people like that, they don't dump more rubbish on you because they know that, oh, when we give you this thing, we can trust you. Yes. But if it's now to, I don't know, and again, I'm not saying that this is your situation, but for example, like pay the person what it is that they deserve, right? They cannot see that patto. Right. Or if it's to give that person recognition, or if it's to make sure that that person is on the right project, they will not see that patto. But you know that, like, oh my gosh, this is like our stable pair of hands. Right. Like, it's very frustrating. It is it is the most frustrating experience. And I I was telling I was telling my dad this um a couple days ago when I was just explaining all the nonsense that I went that happened at work, and I was just like, the frustrating thing about it is that like they're always like, Oh, but you're just so good. Like, we can't do that. We always we always trust that like you're just gonna like do your work and not complain. Because the thing about me, and I don't know if I've said this on the podcast before, but like I don't like when people just complain about things. Like, I'm a solutions-driven babe. So if there's a problem, like I'm not I don't want to dwell on the problem, I don't want to talk about the problem. I want to talk about the solution. Like, yeah, I find it very irritating when like something happens and nobody is discussing how are we gonna fix the problem. Everybody's discussing the problem. Um and so because of that, I don't I don't complain because I'm just like, okay, this has happened, let's fix it. And so they know that, like, oh, we put this babe on a campaign, she's leading XYZ campaign, um, she's gonna get shit done. She's not gonna complain, even when she's stressed, even when she's overwhelmed, she's just gonna do it. And that's just how I work. It's not that I'm not overwhelmed because I am, but like I don't see the point in complaining that I'm overwhelmed because I'm just like, well, if if there's anything that I can do, I can delegate the work and get some help. And but I'm not gonna complain about it. So I always get that feedback. Oh, we can always trust that you're gonna get the work done. Of course. You don't complain, you just kind of like do things, and you just like we just know that you're gonna deliver excellent work, da da da. Okay. So if you know that I'm capable, you know that I'm going to deliver, you know all these things, and yet, and yet, you still can't recognize like my worth, recognize my value. Yeah, it's just like, oh, I'm kind of over this.
SPEAKER_04Like, yeah, it's BS, and and and to be frank, it's signs of I'm like the only Eurobat word that's coming to mind is like ironcy. Like you are just doing stupidity, like you have a oh yeah, a sea finish.
SPEAKER_07Like it's literally of sea finish. Yeah, legend. That's where you know I need to get out of it. It's time to balance, it's time. God, this is the God ordained time for me, and it's been a wonderful, beautiful journey, and it's like an amazing company, and you know, again, probably have learnt whatever so much. Yeah, learnt so many incredible opportunities, sure. But oh, yeah, it is now my time to go. Yeah, it's time to go 110%. Like, I've got and you don't realize, and I think I said this a couple like whatever episode we spoke about, like work, but you don't realize how much of it like actually consumes like you, right? And like how like you start to like doubt your doubt yourself and like what you can actually do because of how they make you feel, and like yeah, um I remember I was talking to someone like outside of like my company just about like the work that I do and the things that I've done, and she was like, like, you do really amazing work, like, and I'm like, it's it's difficult for me to hear and accept that because of everything that I go through at work. That like it's so difficult when someone is telling me that like, no, like you can actually do this thing, you're so good that like I'm just a bit like, are you guys sure? Because in my place of employment, they don't make me feel that way. And it's so annoying because I know that I'm capable. Like, I know that I'm beyond capable. I've been doing this for 10 years now, so I know that I am beyond capable. But again, it's just like I'm it I feel like I'm fighting a losing battle because it's like I'm trying to get people who have they've they've they've already got like they've already got an idea of me in their head. Um and I'm trying to change my own, I'm trying to change my perception of myself to them. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, no, it does.
SPEAKER_07Um it does. And I'm fighting a losing battle, essentially, and I'm tired of fighting. Like I actually I actually don't have it in me anymore. I don't care. Um, and I also don't get paid enough for this, and that's the cocoa. If they were paying me like six figures, then maybe I would care. But they're not, and honestly, I cannot wait. I cannot wait for the day that I get a new job so I can come on this podcast, this very platform, yes, and expose how badly they pay. Like, I can't wait. Because I swear to God, when I tell you guys my salary, you guys will be so shocked. You guys will be like, there's no way that you were living on this salary, and I tell you that I promise you, I wasn't. That's crazy. I wasn't. I I cannot wait. That's crazy. Because it's so bad, and so I'm like, you piss shit, you piss shit money, and then you make me do all this, I make me jump through all these hoops. Anyway, anyway, I don't like guys. I'm so sorry. I did not want the beginning of this podcast to be a Debbie Downer.
SPEAKER_05Um no, I mean, we needed to talk about it, but you know we need to talk about it.
SPEAKER_07Um but genuinely, all I can say is like Yeah, you it's coming. The thing is coming, it's coming, and it's gonna be amazing. And again, you're gonna be in a space where you are going to shine because like you're just ready. Like you are ready. I'm so ready, you're ready for that next challenge, you are ready for that next level, like you are there, like nobody should be putting you as anything below my like you are manager and above director, like that's where you need to be. I'm sorry, director, I'm sorry, yes, ma'am. Although when I think about it, ma'am, like um I look at my director now and I'm like, oh, I do not want your job. It's tough, right? I'm like, oh, because I I find that post-manager level, right? Yeah, you actually stop doing the fun part of the job. Because then it's very much stakeholder management.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_07If I wanted to work in stakeholder management, I would work in corporate homes. Um and I don't want to do that. Like, I actually feel like the fun part of the job is like the minute you become like a head of or like director, like uh the job is no longer fun to me. Because then it's all about strategy and reporting back to your seniors. That's only at my company, to be fair. I don't know how it is like everywhere else, but like, yeah, but when I look at her, I'm like, oof, I do not want that. No, not sure about that, you know.
SPEAKER_04But anyway, um, we're gonna see that and we're gonna leave the testimony out in Jesus' name through this podcast.
SPEAKER_07Through this podcast, period, but you know what?
SPEAKER_06We're back, okay? We're back 16 minutes later. 45 minutes.
SPEAKER_03We are going to enjoy ourselves, we're going to distract ourselves from the realities of life.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_03Thank you very much.
SPEAKER_05So, aside from that, BS, anything else fun?
SPEAKER_03What else fun has happened to you over the past two weeks since we recorded this podcast?
SPEAKER_07Uh nothing that I can think of. Nothing that I can think of. I I have a question actually for you. This was not in the pre in the pre-production nits.
SPEAKER_05I mean what is pre-production these days? Does it exist?
SPEAKER_07Did your MCM end up watching off campus?
SPEAKER_05He actually didn't, because I don't think I like pushed it too much. But um no, he didn't. And I really want him to because I need to we need to have a discussion.
SPEAKER_07Discussion.
SPEAKER_03He hasn't watched it yet.
SPEAKER_07So my question is actually when you made him watch forever, right? This I'm not this is I'm not trying to set a trap. I'm genuinely just asking.
SPEAKER_05Don't worry. It's okay, don't worry. It's even too late for my brain to clock.
SPEAKER_07When you made him watch forever, do you feel like it made like it made any sort of like a difference? Do you feel like he watched it? What? Do you feel like he watched it and was like, oh yeah, I need to like step up my romance gifts from some 18-year-olds.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. That's why I was asking if you watched that.
SPEAKER_07That's why I was asking if he watched off campus. Because I'm like, do you like I'm just I'm gonna go to the back of the show?
SPEAKER_03So let me tell you guys, let me tell you guys, like the best way, right, where you want to send a message, and I I think the girlies already know this, is TikTok and it's TikTok videos. It's not TV shows, no, it's actually not TV shows, they will go by the head, don't I mean TikTok videos are straight to the point direct.
SPEAKER_04And let me tell you something. There's sometimes like you just say you don't say one I'm not like an I emoji.
SPEAKER_05The person will be like, surely not, and you'll just be like, surely, yes.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I'm talking to you, I'm talking to you, okay?
SPEAKER_03So it's the TikTok videos, and recent I'm now I'm there's something I'm trying to pass through because like I don't want it, like I don't want to I don't want to share this, but I've made it very, very clear to like my team and like if I'm going to live in Lagos, there's a certain um it's a postcode area I can't go past. Okay, right.
SPEAKER_09Let's move on from this combo.
SPEAKER_05No, no, no, I'm not even gonna say like you're about to say some nonsense.
SPEAKER_03No, I first of all, I I'm not even gonna tell you what that postcode area because you guys, it could literally be Orchard, it could be Chevron. Like, you don't know what I'm saying, you don't know the thing is I know what I actually mean.
SPEAKER_07I do, they don't know what I mean.
SPEAKER_04Do you understand what I mean?
SPEAKER_05So because I know there's like a certain postcode area that like I I'm not going past, I've started communicating that passive aggressively through TikTok videos.
SPEAKER_07So, like, maybe I'll send TikTok videos about certain things to do with like babes that like don't want to go past a certain postcode area. Do you understand what I mean? So that you just start to get it in your brain. That like, oh, I'm not joking when I see these things. Has that been effective so far? Of just like I brought it up today again. Okay. And he was just like, you have literally been saying this for the past year and a half.
SPEAKER_05And I was like, oh, okay, okay. So like you're so you get it.
SPEAKER_07You're you're hearing me.
SPEAKER_05You get it. You're actually understanding me. So yeah, TikTok videos are really wet. Forever didn't do anything. Like Forever was just like turned into a oh, how crazy was it that he did X, Y, and Z.
SPEAKER_03And I feel like if he watches off campus as well, like he's just gonna be like, oh, this is cool, whatever. Like she likes it, so I'm gonna watch it.
SPEAKER_07But man, those videos he's gonna be like, no, TikTok videos are top two, not two, like extremely direct. Um, it gets the point across very succinctly sharp.
SPEAKER_06Um period like sharp exactly 15 seconds like the thing is because I'm not a wicked person, I don't want to tell you guys the lot the latest one I just said too that I just said, come on, you know when I was saying I felt so bad, but I was just like, no, like no matter what I don't feel bad to be shit because I also receive TikTok videos as well.
SPEAKER_07Like like you're also sending it to me. Thank you. So thank you very much. We're sending to each other, we're sending to each other, sharing, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_05So it's a very well-understood way of speaking.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it's quite um it's quite direct, actually. I saw a TikTok video the other day. You know that um sound, um um what I expect from you is the desire. Week in, week out. Yes, all right, and there was a video of this girl saying, you know, I don't expect you to like clear my wish my wish list every week.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but what I desire from you is the desire to want to buy at least one item.
SPEAKER_04And I thought, wow, yes, yes, hell yes, it is, it is, it is, and even like for me, you know, holidaying and traveling is like such a big part of my life. So, like, you know that Kim, you know that Kim one which was like and I'm not gonna I want to sweet that is my favorite one.
SPEAKER_06Like, I need you to know, I need you to know we don't play over here, okay? We don't play over here, so yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um Latik Talk. Uh absolutely love that app, absolutely love that app. Anyway, anyway, anyway.
SPEAKER_07You didn't ask me again how my week has been. Well, I was about to.
SPEAKER_05If you could just, you know, if you didn't miss episode, I didn't do this. Oh, we gotta give some shout-outs. We gotta give some shoutouts, we gotta say that shout-out. Shout out to the New York Knicks, again. Oh my gosh, okay.
SPEAKER_07Oh my gosh, that's the best thing that's happened to me in the last two weeks. I actually woke up early this morning to watch the game. Like, like you guys, I'm being so dead ass. I'm being so dead ass. Watch the game. Did you watch the last like the fourth quarter? Is that like the fourth? That's exactly what I did because that's what I did the the um a couple days prior. Imagine me. I know you're not watching that thing from the beginning.
SPEAKER_08I'm not from 1:30 a.m.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, like no, we're not doing that. So I woke up around four um and then I watched it from four because you only need to watch the fourth quarter, in my opinion, as a new bee basketball fan. Um my god, but shout out to the Knicks, shout out to Jalen Brunson, MVP, shout out to Jordan Woods' bag, um Period, shout out, shout out to Carl Anthony Towns, shout out to OG Ananobi.
SPEAKER_06Oh, okay, shout out to Jose Okay, who?
SPEAKER_02Jose who Alvarado, Alvarades Okay To be honest, you're not gonna be child shit right now.
SPEAKER_07No, no, I'm being so serious, guys. This um this like playoff season was really exciting for me personally. So I know you're looking at me like you don't even like basketball. No, I do. Do you remember when we watched the last dance back in 2020? That was when I decided that like I like basketball. However, I don't support like teams, I support people in teams. So I don't care who wins as long as it's the people that I support. So like I'm a Golden State Warriors fan. I'm a Golden State Warriors fan. Shout out to Steph Curry, because Steph Curry is my personal greatest of all time. Love him. Like he is my greatest of all time. But I support people in teams, you know, like I support Jason Tatum's, that means I support the Boston Celtics. Um obviously was rooting for the Knicks like crazy. Was rooting for the Knicks like crazy because like it just felt like I couldn't root for Arsenal, you know. Um so I needed to root for another underdog, and the Knicks were that for me. So I'm just not gonna unpack what you just said. What do you mean? I'm just not gonna unpack what you just said. Unpack it. You can unpack it. Root for Arsenal, why? Because I was told that if I root for Arsenal, it makes me a glory hunter. But you can root for the Knicks. I can root for the Knicks because I like the Knicks. No, no, no, because I like the when did you like the Knicks? I've always liked the Knicks when they when Carl Anthony Towns went there. So this is can you can you so can you understand my point about I root for people in teams? So like I I like cats because I like Jordan Woods. Basically, hey black people. Um, I'm not sure how that's your to be called.
SPEAKER_05Because you don't root, you're not rooting for soccer, you're not rooting for AZ.
SPEAKER_07No, I am rooting for soccer, but I don't watch football the way I watch basketball. You can't root for Arsenal. I watch basketball more than I watch football. But the reason I can't support Arsenal is because of what? It's the same dynamic. It's exactly the same dynamic. It's actually not the same dynamic at all. It is, babes. What what dynamic do you think that is? A team that has been chasing something for the past god knows how many years that has been this close to a couple of years. I'm just not gonna get defensive because honestly, we still won the league anyway. No, but you see, the thing is, I I love Arsenal. I wanted I wanted to go to the parade. I wanted to go to the parade so vibe.
SPEAKER_03Why did you go?
SPEAKER_07Because again, they told me it makes me a glory hunter. Who's they? I didn't know that when they tell you to jump, you too you jump. Eh? Who is they? You sit down, you sit down.
SPEAKER_05They know themselves. What I would say about basketball, so like my ex was very obsessed.
SPEAKER_07Very, very obsessed. I love basketball.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he was like obsessed with all sports, and I just again goes back to like I just loved that about him.
SPEAKER_03But anyway, I support the men of the women that I like.
SPEAKER_04Yes. So like I love Coco Jones.
SPEAKER_05Yes. And I didn't realize she was dating a basketballer. She's engaged too. Someone engaged, someone told me. I don't know what you're about to say. Someone told me he looks like my Epson, yeah. And I was like, oh my god.
SPEAKER_06I was like, oh my god, okay. No comments. Someone told me he looks like my own. Can I say something? Can I just quickly say something?
SPEAKER_05I'm not done. I am not done.
SPEAKER_09Because you stay saying that your MCM looks like people. I don't know why you keep saying that.
SPEAKER_07Who else did I say my MCM looks like? Do you you say he looks like David? He does not look like David. He can pass for David's brother. Iowande, Iowande, wrap that shit up.
SPEAKER_04Anyway, whatever.
SPEAKER_07I support Jordan Woods. Yes. And she's engaged to someone who plays for the Knicks. Yes. So that is why I will support the Knicks and I will love what they're doing. So that's my whole thing with basketball.
SPEAKER_05Like, if I love a babe and she's dating a basketball player, we're Tento is down for that team. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Which is, can you imagine how tough it was for me to watch the Knicks versus the Cavs?
SPEAKER_09Like, and we lost every game. Who from the Cavs?
SPEAKER_07Donovan Mitchell.
SPEAKER_09Coco Jones is man.
SPEAKER_06City's babe. Oh shit. Yeah. I just know Coco Jones. And I know her man is fine. End of.
SPEAKER_07No, I actually like I I I think basketball is a really enjoyable sport.
SPEAKER_05The only thing about it is that like I have to disagree. The game is so long. The game is just so long. I don't think it's enjoyable. No, it is really enjoyable.
SPEAKER_04It's just going back and forth. What what what is football?
SPEAKER_07No, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_03There's a loss that happens in the midfield in football. The pitch is actually bigger. Milola. I wanted it. Yes, that's there.
SPEAKER_06Hold on. There's more people on the pitch, actually. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Watching it. The pitch is actually bigger is me. Like, are you good? Watching basketball literally feels like watching table tennis sometimes. I'm just like, where are the tactics? That's crazy. Where are the tactics? That's because you don't know what they are. Where's the defense? Where's the defense? You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_07But anyway, and shout out to the Knicks. Shout out to the Knicks. Thank you. I'm so proud of you. Like, I would give anything to be in New York right now. Like it would be amazing. Anything.
SPEAKER_05It would actually be amazing. And we continue to do that.
SPEAKER_04And you know, it just reminded me.
SPEAKER_07It just reminded me of how, you know, we're going to shut down London when Arsenal becomes champions of Europe and when we win the Champions League.
SPEAKER_03It's going to be a shutdown. It's going to be felt all over the world.
SPEAKER_07Are you you guys lost?
SPEAKER_04I said when we do win.
SPEAKER_07Oh, as in like the next season.
SPEAKER_04Yes, the next season.
SPEAKER_05It's going to be a shutdown. It's going to be felt all over the world. So shout out to y'all. Shout out to Lewis Hamilton. Okay. That's just came in. That just came in. Oh, okay. Shout out to just one. What did he do? He won the Grand Prix for with Ferrari. I think this is like his first win with Ferrari. Because you know he changed teams. I don't know if you know that.
SPEAKER_07I didn't. Where was he before? I'll I'll tell you. Ah.
SPEAKER_04My knowledge doesn't go that far.
SPEAKER_09The thing about this.
SPEAKER_00It is the worried thing I've ever said in my life.
SPEAKER_07Do you know why this is funny? Is that maybe like an hour ago I was talking to Banker and Bank Air was like, ah da da da da Lewis Hamilton. And we're trying to understand like what he does. She was like, is it not just like Riss Scar? It's not just RC. And I was like, I mean, I guess. But like, so after I watched F1, right? You know that film with Brad Pitt and Damson Ages.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. And I assume that's what um Lewis Hamilton does. Yes. That's what he was.
SPEAKER_07But I fear that's not an interesting sport for me to engage in. Um sadly.
SPEAKER_05Um, so he was racing for McLaren.
SPEAKER_08McLaren. Um is that a car company?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, well.
SPEAKER_08McLaren. Is that a car company? Okay.
SPEAKER_05So no, he was with Mercedes. I wonder before. This info.
SPEAKER_03He was with Mercedes before he moved to Ferrari. Okay, guys. Let's just move on. Okay, let's just move on to all the winners. Shout out to the winners. All the winners, okay. Shout out to the winners. Wow, I can't believe we're 33 minutes in the world.
SPEAKER_07This isn't talking nonsense. Talking absolutely nonsense. I'm so sorry, guys. This was not the plan. Anyway, Ayawandi, how have you been? I've been really good. Have your last two weeks been.
SPEAKER_03Life has been interesting. One of my aunties literally says to me today, the craziest statement.
SPEAKER_04What did she say?
SPEAKER_07She goes, like, she goes, Aywande, oh no, oh no. I was like, oh, what happened, Auntie? She was like, oh no, you've let yourself become a size 16. I said, I was like, okay.
SPEAKER_06Excuse me. I just thought this is quite wild.
SPEAKER_07Is this an auntie that you're close to? Is it an auntie that I know?
SPEAKER_05Yeah. And I was like, Is it yes to both? Yes.
SPEAKER_07That's insane. And I was just kind of like, um, okay, we didn't need that comment. It's also not true.
SPEAKER_06I followed her. I don't even care. Okay.
SPEAKER_03But we just didn't need that comment. Uh and I remember a conversation I was having with my friend the other day, and she was just like, yeah, she's gonna be very careful about like who she lets around her show. Because like she knows some of her aunties, uh like uncles, whatever, like can make the wildest takes. And it's just like you're already going to have so much pressure come from like what you see and consume outside of your family home.
SPEAKER_07You do not need someone in your family in an intimate environment to now be adding to that pressure. Um, and she was literally like she's just gonna be like cutting the like the moment you and when she said it initially. I was like, you know what? Yeah, right. Yeah, and she's actually already even started talking to them about it. Like, if you dare open your mouth to say such in front of my own child, like you have no business being around us. Yeah, like you actually have no business being around us because it's harmful, it's unnecessary. And the thing is, like, we've all had to grow up with like very tough skin, having like aunties and uncles just like comment about things that they don't need to comment on, right? But we don't like it doesn't mean that we have to now sit back and allow such a thing to happen.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I know that if I, for example, like went to Ghana and tell my mom that like can you imagine that this person would say such a thing, she just be like, like, I mean, she might be like, oh, that's annoying, or she might think that I don't feel a type of way about it, but she's not gonna be like, Whoa, that's insane.
SPEAKER_07I'm gonna call the person out. And I just want I just hope that we're all gonna be like on that level of you're crazy, you shouldn't be saying such a thing, and especially when you know how it is for women, like in going in and out of like your weight and fluctuations and things like that, yeah you don't need to make a comment like that. It's not it's not funny, and it and and and like you being the child, you have to kind of just like sit there and be like And yeah, and you know this Nigerian culture of like you can't disrespect your elders, so they they can say crazy things to you, but you have to just sit there and take it. It really reminds me of like Oh my god.
SPEAKER_08I sometimes I love my mom, I really do. Like that is my that is my that is my girl.
SPEAKER_05That's your best friend, that's your girly part.
SPEAKER_07But it really what you just said just reminded me of how like growing up I really didn't feel protected by her when it came to like my weights um because I I felt like people would say really crazy things to me. Things, yeah, and she would never jump in to be like, don't say that, don't talk to her that way. Um, and I remember one time, I think the one time that I was just like, Oh, if I'm gonna have like if I'm going to like if this thing is really bothering me, I have to be the one to like say something. Like I can't depend on her to say something, was when a friend of hers came to the house, sat me down on the stairs, and said to me, You know that if you don't lose weight, you're never going to get married. That men are allowed to be fat and they will still find like a good-looking babe and marry her. But you, as a woman, you're not allowed to be fat. And as a fat babe, nobody's going to marry you. And I remember she we had the conversation for about 30 minutes and she was just going off. And this same woman, so funny, was speaking from a place of her own insecurity because she was fat. Of course. And she was unmarried, and she was in her 40s, and um, she felt like because she was fat was the reason she was unmarried. Not because like her attitude sucks, um, or because like her inside was actually rotten, sorry, yeah, but like she felt like it was because she was fat. And that day, my mum was in the kitchen, and at no point did my mom come out to say anything. And I was so upset. Upset. I was so upset because I was just like, why would you allow someone come into our house and talk to me that way?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Even if you agree, right? Like, even if that is something that you believe, you shouldn't let other people feel like free enough to say that to me. In fact, that thing that your friend said, I want people to be like, when it comes to my children, I want people to be like, ah, yeah, you know, if we say anything now, they'll say yes. Actually, yeah, that's exactly what I want to do. That's how it should be. Yeah, like I want you to think twice before you speak. Because like people just say things, and we've just again grown up in this culture where you're not allowed to talk back. And she said all these things, and I sat there and I listened to her, and I'm I think I saw her like maybe two years later, and she had done this crazy diet, like insane diet, where um she um she would not eat one day, then she would eat one day, and then the one day that she does eat, she's only eating like uh kidney and like broccoli. She was she was starving herself. She was starving herself. So obviously she lost a lot of weight.
SPEAKER_08And so I saw her um and she says to me, you know, now I've lost so much weight, and like when I walk down the street, like men honk at me. I thought, really.
SPEAKER_05Good for you.
SPEAKER_07Like, okay, sis, is that the is that the is that so men honking at you is that like the benchmark of like Yeah, for her, like so random. And again, she was saying all these things to me that day.
SPEAKER_08You have to lose weight if you want to find a man. And I said to her, like, I remember saying to her, Auntie, so sorry, but I don't recall ever discussing having man problems with you.
SPEAKER_07Like, I've never come to you to be like, Oh, I don't have a boyfriend. You are assuming that I don't have a man, you assumed that. Um, like nobody asked her for advice. It's just it's again just an insane thing to say to someone.
SPEAKER_05It's absolutely insane, and to feel comfortable saying it to someone.
SPEAKER_07And how old were you at that point in time? Uh early. 24? So when I saw her after, so when she had lost a love weight, I was 24. But I think the first time she had this conversation with me, I was about 21, 22. Um, but people have always felt comfortable talking to me about my weights. And you know, this Yoruba saying of like, because my mum always used to say this thing as well, like, if if you don't learn at home, they'll teach you outside, or something like that. That like, and she always says this thing about like um like I I can't remember the exact Yoruba saying, but it's essentially one of those things of like they will teach you outside, and um people just felt so comfortable saying such crazy things to me.
SPEAKER_05Crazy.
SPEAKER_07Really crazy crazy things. And it's just one of those things, like you just you have to just be so you just don't know what somebody is going through in that moment for you to like she does not know if like maybe I have Been struggling at the moment, or like I'm having issues, or maybe like you know, personally, there's things that I'm going through and like you just feel also like not everyone like by proxy of our relationship, you are entitled to not everyone is so like caught up about their weights or cares about like if I'm a size eight or if I'm a size like not everyone cares about that. So you're you're projecting onto me, and it's very jarring, it's very annoying. Okay, and this should be my response to how I was like uh auntie, you know how these things happen like up down every day. Like, what I meant to do? What am I meant to do?
SPEAKER_04I'm enjoying my life.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I'm literally enjoying my life, like I'm not sitting there like obviously you you were able to like answer her in that way, but like did it upset you or did it like affect you or like I think it was more I feel like it definitely affected me because I felt like you know, even when you walked out today, I'm like when I walked out today, I was like, Oh, I look cute, I'm feeling cute, like hey, do you know that kind of thing?
SPEAKER_04Like I'm feeling like I like my outfit, I like how I look. Do you understand? And so when you now say that kind of thing, I'm like, ah. I remember I think when I came back and I was looking at myself in the lift with the mirror, I was like, is it uh like was there something?
SPEAKER_07And I was looking at myself in the mirror and I was still like, oh look cute. Yeah, like I still look cute and I look and feel cute. Do you understand? So I think it was a moment of just this is a bit annoying, yeah, but I don't think it was something that like I internalized and I have not internalized, and I will not internalize. Yeah, that's good because like and and anyway, I've always even been a size 16 or like in between sizes. I was literally writing down in my notes, like, oh yeah, my bottoms. I think I was trying to send something to someone, like measurements. So I bottoms are like a size 16. Like, I what are you saying? I don't care. Do you understand? It's like at that point that it's just like you think that this thing that you're saying to me, maybe I'm going to be like, ah, damn, I've done babes. I'm going back home. I'm going to go and chow ice cream. I'm going to go and chow. And I don't care. Like, you can't call me, can be like, oh, that's ridiculous. You don't need to say, but like, because I don't think that there's anything wrong with how I'm living. Yeah, or how I look. But but you but you do. And because you think that way, you feel like I'm supposed to feel that way as well. And that's just something that I that I that I and I genuinely wish I was one of those people that I because again, I'm not a young girl.
SPEAKER_03Like, I could literally have sent her a message to be like, Auntie, I actually think that was highly inappropriate. Please do not like refrain from commenting on my body and how I look going forward. Thank you. Like with love.
SPEAKER_06Thank you.
SPEAKER_04How do you think she would have received it? But I don't even think it would have just felt I mean she would have probably been like, Oh, I'm so sorry, my darling. But like, yeah, I just, you know that kind of thing. I feel like a lot of us have to always like be careful about how we um obviously because of respect for adults, like we have to be careful about their feelings.
SPEAKER_08Yes, and it's very annoying.
SPEAKER_04And it's annoying, it's like you're not careful about my feeling, right? I have to now be considerate of your own feelings. What I'm going to say is going to affect you, right? And it's just like, don't be a shitty person. Like, I have younger um cousins, nieces and nephews that like I know also my younger cousins, they're so they're doing some crazy things.
SPEAKER_07And like there's a line you say, and even if it's a thing that I feel like, oh, you've crossed a certain line, and again, this has nothing to do with all, like other things, there's a way you say it with love, or like there's a a there's a time and place.
SPEAKER_04Like, yeah, you I won't just like be there and be like, ah, how can you like ah yeah, you know, let's say, for example, let's say it's an odor thing or whatever.
SPEAKER_07Ah, you're smelling. Like, I won't say that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you might say like with love, you pull the person aside and just be like, oh, like tell me about or like you might just be like, oh, like tell me about your like your routine or something like that. Then maybe you share with them, like, oh, even between when I was like I was young, I was having issues, like, yeah, like this is what I did.
SPEAKER_07Like, there's a way we have all lived and we've been kids, and we're like, there's a way you say certain things, and even my aunt, I was looking at her like you of all people should know that this is inappropriate.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, you should know. And like, I don't need to say more, but you should know.
SPEAKER_08You should know. Yeah, yeah. I remember one time I saw one of my uncles for the first time in a long time. And we went to church. I don't know if you remember this day. We went to church and we went we after the service, we went downstairs and I was greeting him. And I was like, uh, good morning, Uncle. He was like, Well, I've not seen you in so long. Like, what have you been up to? And I was like, Oh, Uncle, I was about to say his name. Uncle, I've just been chilling. Um you know, I've just like work has just been um work like going like I haven't I had at that point I hadn't been to Lagos in a long time.
SPEAKER_07He goes, Yeah, oh it's not even funny. He goes, Oh, so think about you just let yourself go like this. I was like, Oh like, and I remember you and Fonto like immediately just you didn't even let him finish talking. You guys just bundled me up and said, We're going outside, we're going to the car. Like, we're just we're gonna go. We're gonna go, we're gonna go. There's no need, there is no need for this converse. There's no need for this conversation to continue. Because he just like, and he said it, and I in my head I'm thinking, what do you want me to say in response to this statement? What do you want me to say? What am I first of all? I'm I'm dealing with the shock of the nonsense you just told me. And I'm now supposed to respond in a way that is not disrespectful because we're also in the house of the Lord.
SPEAKER_09It's not funny, but it's also insane.
SPEAKER_06Imagine you are responding to a how I've been being picked, and somebody telling you you let yourself go home.
SPEAKER_07Like, I was just like, okay, and I remember for the rest of that Christmas holiday, I avoided him. Which is very difficult if you know the uncle I'm referring to. It's very difficult considering where I was living. Um, very difficult. But I just remember like I spent the rest of the time just like trying to avoid him. And even now that like I'm on a I don't I don't know what to call it, weight loss journey. I don't I don't know what to call it. The whole thing just makes me feel very uncomfortable because even now when people like talk about my weight, it's very annoying. It's still very like, oh, you've lost so much weight. Well done, dear. Continue. I don't like it. Like, I just I would wish that you just don't talk about my body, about my weights. Like, just if you have any thoughts about it, honestly, please keep it to yourself.
SPEAKER_05Like, keep it to yourself.
SPEAKER_07I don't need to know.
SPEAKER_05I don't need to know yourself.
SPEAKER_07Well, I'm very sorry that she said that to you. She shouldn't have said that. And it was just crazy because my MCM was also like next to me, like there are other people around. Oh. And I was just kind of like Do you talk about it?
SPEAKER_04Anyway, like, um, I don't want to call them body issues, but like, you know, how you feel about your body, 100%, all that kind of stuff with your MCM. All the time, talk about it all the time.
SPEAKER_06Like, bro, I I genuinely think I weigh more than my MCM.
SPEAKER_07That's okay. Ain't nothing wrong with that.
SPEAKER_06Like, we talk about it all the time. Because like it was so funny because he when we first started DT, he randomly said like his voice in a comp like in a conversation.
SPEAKER_00And I was like, Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_08I find it such an uncomfortable conversation.
SPEAKER_05It is, it's but the thing is you shouldn't you shouldn't be with someone where it's an uncomfortable conversation.
SPEAKER_07But you see, the thing is, I think it's not that they make me feel uncomfortable, it's that I am uncomfortable speaking about it, as in like me. Yeah, like for me, I don't enjoy talking about talking about my body, my weight, or anything. And I remember someone asked me, how much do you weigh? And I wanted to collapse. And I was like, excuse me, and it was like we were talking about, we were talking about just like weight loss, right? And just yeah, all the all this stuff. And he goes, How much do you weigh? Eh? I said, I said, I'm not gonna tell you that. He goes, Okay, um, is it under kinniko kinniko? I said, excuse me. I'm never, I am never going to tell you my weights. It's not like no, it's not a conversation. He goes, Okay, okay, so you're saying that you still want to lose X amount of weight. So if you lose that X, will you be? I said, hello. Hello, I can't answer this question. Like, stop. Like, it's not like I don't want to have this conversation with you. Like, yeah, I'm happy to talk about everything, anything else, but gosh, why do you want to know how much I weigh?
SPEAKER_05No, genuinely, it is it's tough, it can be hard, right?
SPEAKER_04But we talk about it all the time. Like, I would always like express my insecurity, like, oh, I'm feeling this way about this, and like, oh my gosh, I know that I'm not eating properly, and he knows like I have I'm such an ice cream addict.
SPEAKER_07And like, let's say I would be like, Oh, um, I need to like cut down on sugar, something like that, but like maybe next week I'm like, oh, I need to go salary.
SPEAKER_06Like, he's not gonna be like, but you said, like, he'll be like, Okay, like what do you want? Like, do you know what I mean? Like, okay, which ice cream flavor are you interested in having? Something like that.
SPEAKER_04You know, so like it's not we talk about it and he like sometimes he hates like how I like put myself down or make myself feel because of like oh how I feel in my body.
SPEAKER_07Um and he's just like, oh, you know, he will try and reassure like because I I think again because he weighs less than me, I think. Well, I know he weighs less than me. Um I would like be asking him, like, oh you know, the girls that you've dated in the past, like, have you dated anybody that's like my size?
SPEAKER_04Like, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, and I used to do it a lot in the beginning because I was just always like so confused, like, oh my god, I feel so uncomfortable. Like, you're gonna see my stomach, like you're gonna see my like love handles and my arms and whatever.
SPEAKER_05Like, I used to feel so uncomfortable about it, but he's just like, girl, like it doesn't matter, it like doesn't matter, and genuinely, you know, if we're getting a bit x-rated here, my stomach is like his favorite thing. That is like I didn't need to know that.
SPEAKER_09I'm like, hey I wish you guys could see what I wanted to do right now.
SPEAKER_06Love to hold it, you know? So yeah, like don't date somebody who's crazy, and again, he works out and is you know, fits, yeah, whatever you want to call it.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, he yeah, we talk about it. That's all I'm gonna say to answer your question, like we talk about it. Yeah, and he's very reassuring, and he's very much like, regardless, if you like go and do whatever, I'm still gonna love you. Oh, you guys love each other? Excuse you, this is an amateur hour. That was a genuine question.
SPEAKER_07It's my MCM. When did you guys say you love each other? A long time ago. Really?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and he said it first.
SPEAKER_07You guys said you would just be like Defined a long time ago. I'm not gonna air your dirty laundry on this podcast. But what's dirty laundry? They already know my business. Defined a long time ago.
SPEAKER_05It was a while, like I think it was like within seven months of dating. Very fast.
SPEAKER_04Seven months of dating, knowing ourselves.
SPEAKER_07Oh. You people are not serious. Well, he said it first, and I was like, people are not serious, so then he was like, I'm never he was like, I'm never gonna say it again. No. Sorry. Sorry. The reason why I'm laughing is because you people are not serious. How? What do you mean? Seven months is long. Said no, no, no, no. Seven months of knowing each other, and then it took yes.
SPEAKER_09Can you see where I'm going with this?
SPEAKER_05See, everybody's time is together, okay?
SPEAKER_06Life is dynamic again.
SPEAKER_05God works and operates in a different timeline, baby. Okay, you need to remember that. But no, he said it first, and then he was like, I'm never gonna say this again. Because I think I don't know if I laughed or if I was just like not responsive.
SPEAKER_06Like, I think I must have just been like, so like, is it raining where you are? Something like that.
SPEAKER_09If I tell a man that I love him and his response is also the weather, he seems good out blocking.
SPEAKER_06Because I genuinely was confused, like, confused.
SPEAKER_05Jeez, but then I think like so when did you now say that? Maybe like I think I must have said it like three days later or something.
SPEAKER_04Cold. Thank God. Yeah, it didn't take too long. But he's a good he's a good man. Marcus was a good man.
SPEAKER_09He's a good man, oh y'all, y'all, the girlies are in love. That's so interesting.
SPEAKER_04The girlies are in love. I just saw my MCM today, you guys. I'm like so happy. Like, I just love seeing my MCM. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06It's quite like, can you not do this on the podcast?
SPEAKER_07I so I was trying to record a video earlier. So I have like a video journal on my like laptop. So when I'm going to things. I've had it, I've had it, yeah, literally. I've had it since I've had it since like 2020. Um Yeah. So when I'm going through things, I just open my laptop and I talk to it. And I was trying to talk to it about like my feelings about something.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_07Um, and I was just like, this is so disgusting. Like, yuck. Like I can talk about anything else. But when it comes to talking about just like feelings, particularly about like men, I'm always just like, this is so gross. Like, mm-hmm. And then I was like, if I cannot be honest with my video diary where it's just me and my laptop, like who am I going to be honest with? Nobody is watching this. Honestly, it's just it's insane. I'm just like, oh yeah. I was always talking and then I was like, oh no, we've got to wrap this up.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's like me when I write in my journal, and I've told you people how nasty it is. Like, it's disgusting. I'm like, we need to wrap this up. Yeah, no, no, we're not gonna do it.
SPEAKER_07Literally, anyway, anyway, anyway. I have before the podcast ends because I cannot even believe that this podcast has come to an end. Me either, because this was not the plan for this episode. What the hell? Um, this was not the plan for this episode at all. Where did the time go?
SPEAKER_05So sorry, guys. Anyway, I have um oh you have so we gotta do two things always before we wrap up. Always. You gotta do O in the Last Corner.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Um, O in the last rounds.
SPEAKER_03So please go ahead before I do my quick fire question.
SPEAKER_07Okay. Um today's episode of O In O Last Corner obviously is dedicated to TikTok as it always is. Um what I want to say is that the worst thing that TikTok could have introduced is um pictures in comment sections. You may be wondering. No, no, no. No, you may be wondering, Ohinola, but some of the pictures are quite funny. Yes, so but some of them are not. Now imagine I make a TikTok video. Oh my god, I went to this shop, I bought this red top from ASOS, um, and I didn't like it. I did a try on haul, I didn't like the way it looked on me. I'm returning it. And then you take your hands. You and many others now start posting in my comments, oh, but when I bought the top, it looked good on me. This is it on me.
SPEAKER_01I didn't ask.
SPEAKER_07I didn't ask.
SPEAKER_01Oh, someone does a story time.
SPEAKER_07Oh, I got married when I was 19. Um, but like I got married really young, and like our marriage didn't work out. Um, and like they're doing a story time about like, you know, like mourning the loss of a young marriage. You and your other friends entered the comment section. Me and my partner got married at 19. We've been together 52 years. This is us. Didn't ask. I didn't ask.
SPEAKER_05I didn't ask to give you a visual representation. I actually understand.
SPEAKER_07No, but I didn't ask. I don't like what hello.
SPEAKER_08Um, my best friend, someone is doing a story time. Oh, my best friend passed away. Um, it's been a really traumatic experience. Da da da. Um, this is me and my best friend.
SPEAKER_07We went out yesterday. Didn't ask. Why do people feel the need? Why do people feel the need to center themselves in other people's stories? I think it's absolutely diabolical. I think it's insane that like I am posting a video, right? Just on my ones. You're not taking upon yourself to come and tell me, oh, but this is me and my partner. We've been together for 52 years and we got married young, and this is I didn't ask you. I don't care. Do you know how many people's videos I see things like this on? I think it's insane. Like when I get back to posting on TikTok, and people start doing this in my comment section. Blocked. Blocks. I didn't ask for your opinion. I don't ask, I'm not asking to see you in the top. I don't care about you and your best friends. Like, I think it's diabolical. I think it's insane. Absolutely insane. I mean, on the one hand, they want to give a different take, right? No, but nobody asks, hey. You know, if if at the end of my video I said, uh, um, you guys tell me what you think about getting married young, then I'd understand. But I've just finished trauma dumping in a video about how like I got married at 19 and like it was actually a lot for me, and like I'm really grieving this. And you're telling me, oh, but when I got married at 19, it was actually really great, and I like I love my husband. Okay, who asked you?
SPEAKER_01Who asked you?
SPEAKER_07And then you go ahead and you put pictures. I think it's insane. Like, I I think it's absolutely it's absolutely insane. Um I I saw a TikTok draft that I made um where I was like, one of my favorite things about living in the United Kingdom is that you can walk for like 10 minutes and you see like a patch of greenery. Um and I think that more people need to step outside, walk for 10 minutes, and touch some grass. Because like we are losing the plots, people are losing their minds, and like it's giving people just leeway to do things. Like, if someone was telling you that kind of story in real life, you wouldn't then turn around to be like, yeah, but when I got married at 19, like it actually worked out for me, and we ended up being together for ages. It's like you wouldn't do that, you just you just wouldn't do that, yeah. Anyway, that's my rank for the day.
SPEAKER_03That's funny. That's a really funny one. I don't think anything beats the boosting vaginas. Like, I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_07I actually saw one today. I saw one today. I just I think it's diabolical. Yeah, I've never that's a different like so. When I get to the wax parlour, yeah, are you giving me a consent form right to say are you over? Okay. Right. With this being shared. Right. I even saw one babe that owns a she owns a wax place in Nigeria in Nigeria. On her personal page. On her personal page. She's posting the top of people's versions. Hello. Hello. Like you have to be breaking at least a million laws. You have to be. Like you have to be. Like, what are we doing?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I don't know. I already don't know.
unknownAnyway.
SPEAKER_03Anyway, my question is actually might not be a quick fire question.
SPEAKER_05So maybe you'll park it. No, ask away. But what I wanted to ask. I just wanted to ask, like, what was your craziest Nigerian vendor experience?
SPEAKER_03Like, diabolical, this is wild. I can't believe someone can do this kind of thing. Like off the top of your head, if you can't remember. And I will give you mine before you give me yours, just to give you time to think. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05I am living my craziest Nigerian vendor experience ever with the guy who quote unquote made my wig.
SPEAKER_07This man sold my wig.
SPEAKER_04What? My wig. I bought bundles and a closure two years ago. I went to make that hair.
SPEAKER_07I wore the hair. And I sent it back to him to revamp the hair. Like just wash it as if I've worn it to wash it. Blow dry. Sorry. Whatever. I don't understand.
SPEAKER_04The man proceeds to send me back hair.
SPEAKER_08That's not yours.
SPEAKER_04He sends me back hair. And on the day that I want it, I said, okay, I put the wig on.
SPEAKER_07It's looking like helmets on my head. And I realize that this is not a 22 bust down wig. This is not my wig. I'm so excited.
SPEAKER_04The man proceeds to send back the hair. I went to his store and I went to him and I said, This is not my hair. You can measure the inches. He's like, Mama, mama, mama. This is your hair. This is your mama. He measured it. It was 18 inches. I said, it's not my hair. And I can show you the receipts.
SPEAKER_07I didn't buy 18, I bought 22. To where the heck is the heck? It's my hair.
SPEAKER_04Literally. The guy said, eh, he doesn't know. He doesn't know.
SPEAKER_01He doesn't know.
SPEAKER_04But uh, I'm sorry that um I said, okay, but think about it.
SPEAKER_07I was given wrong hair. I came back. The person that you mistakenly swapped the hair for. Right. Why has the person not come back? Why would they come back now? This should just be this should be an exchange. No, it should be an exchange. Why would they come back? When if somebody has they got 18 inches and they bought 18 inches and they got 22. And they're receiving 22. They will do testimony. They're going to church on Sunday. God of miracles. God of suddenly.
SPEAKER_04You might even be like, uh uh uh, wait till this day maybe it's not my because it fits it to your hair, whatever.
SPEAKER_07You come back. So, Oga, this should be a simple exchange. Exchange impossibly. He said he doesn't know who, doesn't know where, doesn't know what. So is he going to give you your money back?
SPEAKER_04Like, no, I told him that it's very good. Like, just I told him exactly where I bought the bundles.
SPEAKER_07I told him to add 30% inflation. Yeah. Because we are in an inflationary climate. Yeah. He said, add it.
SPEAKER_04And go and get the bundles. Yeah. And make me a new wig.
SPEAKER_08Period.
SPEAKER_04And that was the beginning of my hell and my nightmare that I am currently living in. Because what's he saying? He went and I he doesn't exist anymore. I don't know where he is.
SPEAKER_07No freaking way.
SPEAKER_04I don't know where he is.
SPEAKER_07So I just want to say there's a shop in Bearban at the bottom of Bearban. There's a wig. If anyone listens to podcasts, mix their hair with Femi, hair by Fermi. I promise you, that man is a thief, he's a liar, he's a fraud. And he's to run left. Because he stole my wig. Can you see it? Sold it to a different customer. And has gone M I A. M-I-A.
SPEAKER_04The guy told me his brother called me because I bla I've been blatant and I'm gonna lock him up.
SPEAKER_07He's gonna get locked up. As you should, period. He's going to find out today. I have called so many people. We are locking that town up. I do believe, I do believe that if you fuck around, you must find out. You will find out.
SPEAKER_04I don't care if it's going to take me months. You have to find out.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_04I've been blasting his phone and I've been threatening him. The man, his brother now called me and told me he's in the hospital. Oh, he's is suicidal, is having mental health issues.
SPEAKER_07He's on the hospital bed. I said, please, please, please.
SPEAKER_04You think that I am a fool?
SPEAKER_07I have been dealing. I literally have him saved on my phone as the biggest fool. I have been dealing with this big fool for the past couple of months, and you think that I am a bigger fool who is sitting on the call and you are gonna tell me that he's having suicidal thoughts and I'm gonna be like, oh, so sorry. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. You were not born yesterday. I said, if you people, if you born you well, you will drop either you are paying me money or you are giving me my week. And if I do not receive any of the two, I'm lo it's it's a shutdown. Period. First of all, he blocked me, has blocked me from Instagram because I've been blasting his whole page. I commented everything. What was his name? Hair by Femi. Hair by Femi. I think hair by Femi ATF or something stupid like that. You think that I'm stupid, right? He now blocks me from going on his page. So please, others that are listening to it, go and comment on his page and tell me he's a fool. Good mad. Good. But I will come back and testify of how this is actually what I live for. I locked this man up. This is what I live for. I will come back and testify about how I locked this man up. This is what I live for. His crimes against me. Because what you're not going to do is do that. What you are not going to do too. I found you that hair by family. I found him.
SPEAKER_05You think because you have thousands of followers on Instagram, you think you are something great.
SPEAKER_07Oh very good. Ask Uncle Stance because they blocked me. One thing about me. I'm gonna blast your phone. Okay, hair by family. I have your time this night. All right, we are going to balance this evening.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah, you forgot. You people forget that. We're dealing with a real life troll. She loves to be in the comments. Remember what you told us a couple of weeks ago? I in fact I love it like crazy. Plasty.
SPEAKER_07I'm so rage. Good. I've been coming. I think I don't even know if you can see my comments. Fraud. He's deleted his idiots. Of course, he deleted it.
SPEAKER_05I thought it was I thought he was on. I thought it was on the sick bed. I thought you were on the sick bed. You have deleted my comments.
SPEAKER_02Oh, he doesn't know what is coming for him. He's going to wake up tomorrow amused.
SPEAKER_07Doesn't know what's coming for him. Good. Thief. Good. I haven't time this night. Don't worry. Don't worry.
SPEAKER_06I love my people. I think I sent to um others.
SPEAKER_07I need everybody to rally around. What is my worst vendor experience? Yeah. I have too many. I don't even know which one to start with. That's the craziest thing. I don't I I honestly don't know. And the fact that I have too many is is is terrible in itself. Um the only one, the only one I will just quickly talk about is really just Uncle Stan's. Um Uncle Stan's small shops. They blocked my phone number. Like they are insane people. Um and it's just such a shame that they have good small chups.
SPEAKER_02Which branch? Which branch? Which branch? The one in Lecky. And you know why it's yeah, and you know why it's funnier?
SPEAKER_07Because when I went in December, so they blocked me two years ago, but when I went in store, I couldn't order on WhatsApp. So I had to go in store. When I went in store, and she was like, Oh, why didn't you order online? I said, Because you people blocked me, bro.
SPEAKER_00Like, you're kidding me, you're actually kidding me. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_07You may be wondering, Winola, why would Uncle Stans block you? Let me tell you.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, what would Uncle Stance block you?
SPEAKER_07We were going to the beach.
SPEAKER_00I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_07We were going to the beach. You know. I wonder it's dying laughing.
SPEAKER_00It's continuing.
SPEAKER_07We were going to the beach. We planned a really nice fun beach day, which didn't it was a fun beach day in the end. Um it ended up being fun. But um, honestly, anyway, that honestly, anyway, it doesn't matter. We're going to the beach. So everyone is in charge of different things, right? So they put Williola in charge of the small chops, no problem. I said, that ain't no problem. Me and Uncle Stans, we go together real bad. Like Uncle Stance, Uncle Stance has never done me wrong. So and this is why you can't never put your faith in any Nigerian vendo. Okay. So me being the good Uncle Stance customer that I am, called them the day before. I said, hey guys, I want to pre-order. Um, I ordered everything, I paid. Um, and they said they will deliver to me at home. I said, okay, no problem. I said, are you guys sure? Like, I'm happy to come and pick it up before we go. They said, no, no, no, no, Ma. No ma, we will deliver to you, ma. Top. I said, I'm leaving the house at 10 a.m. to go to the beach. They said, yes, ma, we'll deliver it on time. No problem. Obviously, uh, we obviously do not leave the house on time to go to the beach. So 10 comes, there's no small chops. I'm calling them. First of all, as I'm calling them at 10, the number is switched off. So I'm thinking, hmm, why would the number be switched? So I'm not messaging them that, hey, what when is the order going to arrive? No response. 10:30. At this point, we're getting ready, we're trying to leave the house. Hey, when is the order going to arrive? They respond, they tell me that the order is on your on its way, ma. I said, okay, how long? They said 10 minutes, ma. Okay. And you're wondering how can I recall exactly what they said? Because I blasted them. Cool. They said 10 minutes. I'm like, okay, guys, they said the smutchups will be here in 10 minutes. Okay, now. 10 minutes, smudgeups is not here. Aywanda is like, we've gotta go. We've gotta go. We need to head to boat club. We need to head. Okay, now. We get to boat club. I'm messaging them on the way that I've left the house. Don't send the smutchups to the house. You guys have already annoyed me. Like, don't send it there. Tell the dispatch to divert to boat club. We get to boat club. I now call them that. Hello. Um, people have not answered any of my messages based on I'm not at home anymore. And that the food is meant to have arrived, you know, maybe 20 minutes ago. So, how far? No response. We get to boat club, we're trying to sort out boats, all the stuff. So, but we don't end up leaving boat club for a while. People are late, um, we're waiting for the boat, all this kind of stuff. So I remember that we were in boat club for like maybe 40 minutes. I like we were there for a while.
SPEAKER_05We were there for a while.
SPEAKER_07So I'm calling. I'm calling. Hey, hey, hey, where is the food? Ah, no response. And I said, wait a minute. I thought you guys said the food is on its way. From lucky to the house in this early AM on a bike is a 10-minute journey. Hundred. Like, it's a 10-minute journey. So, why has the food not arrived? Um, I am lumbasting these guys. You guys are mad, you guys are crazy, you guys are stupid. Where is my food? Why have you not sent it? I am there is no equity. There is no equity I did not I did not give them that. They're not responding to me. Like the last message they sent to me was that your your rider is on the way with the food at 10 30.
SPEAKER_09Okay, now you do you know that we leave boat club, there's no smudge-ups.
SPEAKER_07We get to the beach, there is no smudge-ups. Till this day, I still have screenshots of all the messages I sent them.
SPEAKER_00I'm crying.
SPEAKER_07I cannot do this. I said that day, oh god, to the point that like and I I would I would call them, they'll cut the call. When they cut the call, I'll message, then I'll call, then they'll cut the call, I'll message, I'll call, they'll cut the call.
SPEAKER_09I said, Do you guys think I'm stupid? Do you think I was born yesterday?
SPEAKER_07If you're not going to deliver this much, I'll give me my money. There is nothing I did not say that day. They now blocked me.
SPEAKER_00It's the funniest story he booked up.
SPEAKER_07That's when they now blocked me. And I tried to call this this user is on unreachable. BT Bawo, how is that so? You must be reachable because when you took my 60k yesterday, you were very reachable. When it was time to transfer the money, you were reachable. I want you guys to know that the small chops came to the beach at 6 p.m. 6 p.m.
SPEAKER_06Anyway, oh my god, Uncle Star's might be the funniest story you've ever told in your life.
SPEAKER_07Ah, that day I've never lambusted the way I lambusted that day. Because I just thought to myself, like, even when they blocked me, I thought, oh, you think that's the end of the story? I one day give me your phone. Banker, give me your phone. Give me your phone. There is no phone I did not use. I swear to God that like I called them so much that the phone must have died. Like, because I just thought to myself, and the thing, the thing about me, the thing about me is that I don't like people taking me for a mug. Like, I don't actually I don't like people taking me like thinking that I'm stupid. Because like it's not even about the small chops, it's about the fact that like if I didn't continue to lambast, they would have just been ah, we've chalked her money out and gone. Imiko, you've got the wrong one, bro. Like, you've actually got the wrong one. The wrong one.
SPEAKER_06Like the wrong one.
SPEAKER_07Maybe I'll screenshot one of the messages and and I don't even know where I'll put it so you guys can see. Because I legit was abusing. I said, plus you, plus your mother, plus the owner of Uncle Stance, all of you will not sleep well this night. You think that? Like, do you think that 60k? I said, I now ask the person on the phone that do you have the 60k? Do you think that it's easy to find 60k? 60k, first of all, 60k for smart ups is it's absurd. And I paid it because I said Uncle Stance has never done me wrong. Ah, Uncle Stance did me wrong.
SPEAKER_06Oh my god.
SPEAKER_07But anyway, I I think we can actually do a whole episode. No, this is part one. Horror story because if I hold Timari's neck, oh my god, just let me go.
SPEAKER_06Just just give me an inch to just hold the neck. So sorry for what I've used to know. I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_09Give me because if you guys see what Timarian did to me in December, give me a moment. You guys will be seeing oh being dangerous. Give me an inch.
SPEAKER_06No. You just let me just next episode.
SPEAKER_07I need it. Let me just right now. Let me just hold. Let me just hold them by the neck. Because that day was boxing day. I said hello. You people will wake up. You will come and fix it. I don't care that you're on break. You will fix this top today. Today.
SPEAKER_09The owner. Oh, did you not come for a fit? You will fix it today. You think I'm stupid. You think I'm mad.
SPEAKER_05And that's the thing. Besides, I don't have a following on Instagram.
SPEAKER_03I'm so thankful for the people that raised us and for the mothers that we have. Because one thing, and that's why I said that be a big fool.
SPEAKER_07Big fool. Because I don't care if it takes me one year. I don't care. You are going to pay for that stupidity that you did for me. Absolutely. You're going to pay for it. Absolutely. I promise you. And you're going to come, you're going to beg. You're going to actually go down and say, Mama, please. That's what you're going to say to me. Yeah. Because you are mad. There was one. And I kept telling him, I said, you are mad. Period. There's one woman on TikTok. I watched her videos where she was looking for her house girl. She basically hired this house girl that was basically stealing from her. And the house girl now ran away. She tracked her down.
SPEAKER_04And she beats she beats the nonsense.
SPEAKER_07Because this is the thing. Yeah. I understand that people are going through things. But what I don't like, because we we had a driver like this as well, where it's like people are treating you good, right? And and you you take their kindness for weakness. And like we had one driver like this, I can't Mr. James Ulijat Jatsy. Like he would now, he would be stealing phones and then be helping you look for the phone that he has stolen.
SPEAKER_08Hey, good.
SPEAKER_07And I'm just like, we treat you so well. Like, you know, you we you stay in the house, we give you food, we give you um breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Like we go out. When we go out, we're buying you food, we're doing all these things. Like, and you still you feel the need. And again, I understand Nigeria is hard. And I feel like there are people that like see like it may not even be extreme wealth, but there are people that see wealth and they see these things, and in their own mind, they're thinking, ah, she be you can buy another one. But it's like, no, first of all, no, I can't. I can't. But secondly, it's not yours, it's not yours to steal. And that's why I was trying to explain to him. Like, you are literally, you don't know how much I had to work to get it. To get that for myself to get the hair made, you don't know how much it took. And bear in mind before that, I never even had a bust down wig. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Like this is a quote unquote, okay. Let me just treat myself. I've worked out like, do you get? Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Some people might think, ah, but it's not that much money now. I'm not going to disclose the amount of money that I spent, but it's enough for me to know that this is unfair. And it's your money. This is unfair. You worked for it. Exactly. It's unfair. What you have done is unfair. It's not nice. And for you to not even like be remorseful and try to rectify the situation because what? He kept telling me that I should come and pick the bob bob wig in his store. What do you want me to do with that?
SPEAKER_08If I wanted a bob wig, I would have bought bob length bundles.
SPEAKER_07I don't want that. He doesn't know who he's dealing with. Don't worry, I have his time this night.
SPEAKER_05We will find out who he's dealing with.
SPEAKER_07This night.
SPEAKER_05I've even started reporting him. I want somebody, I want Facebook to just take his whole page.
SPEAKER_07Me, I'm into reporting pages as spam. I normally do that.
SPEAKER_03Yes, same thing. Normally I even say inappropriate. This has inappropriate content.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. He's a thief. Don't worry. You are a thief.
SPEAKER_04Anyway. Anyway, guys.
SPEAKER_07We've come to the end of this podcast.
SPEAKER_08Um what a chaotic episode. What a bloody chaotic episode.
SPEAKER_07By the next time you guys hear us, Aywande and I will be reunited.
unknownYay!
SPEAKER_07I'm so excited because it means that our 10th episode will be Instagram. Yeah, that's so exciting.
SPEAKER_05I'm really excited. I'm really excited. And we were contemplating like guests, maybe, I don't know. But let's see. Maybe the 11th episode.
SPEAKER_07Because we'll try and record at least like two or three.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Um, whilst we're together. But maybe we can have a cheeky, a cheeky guest on for 10.
SPEAKER_08Maybe. I actually don't know who the guest would be.
SPEAKER_07Who would you guys like to hear on the on the 10th episode? I'd like to know that actually. I'm curious. Yeah, that would be really interesting. I feel like you want to hear from like characters that we've brought up. So if we could have like someone like Baron Kib, but obviously Shaw Rao. Yeah. If you could have like my MCM, but obviously I would never get him on the podcast. Like you want to hear from characters. Oh, yeah, I don't think that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_05I have so many questions for him.
SPEAKER_03Um it's not gonna happen anytime soon. Maybe like, yeah, maybe where we have kids.
SPEAKER_07Um but I could bring my MCM on the podcast. I don't even know who your MCM is. Exactly, because I don't have one. Well, yeah, but we could have there's so many people we can think about it um and discuss and make it a fun one. But also we can just, you know, it can just be us.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, we can talk about lots of different things.
SPEAKER_05But let us let us know what you guys think.
SPEAKER_08Let us know. Um thank you guys for listening to this very chaotic episode. I feel like my energy came back towards the end, which is good.
SPEAKER_07Um you killed me. Well, Uncle Stans. I haven't I haven't laughed like that. They're very stupid. They're very, very stupid. The reason I keep going back is that I genuinely don't know any other small chops place that is as good as Uncle Stan's. People keep talking about 12 baskets, but 12 baskets is not that great.
SPEAKER_04I'm sorry. Um there's like lots of different ones, Janosh, Inger King, but I think.
SPEAKER_08I had Janosh, but Uncle Stans was just it's just top, I don't know. They put crack in their in their uh small chops or something.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah. Um I feel like that they learned from the experience they had with you. They're very stupid. When I went there, and the Uma was like, Why didn't you just ask messenger? I said, because you've blocked me, bro. Do you think I want to come here? You think this is what I want to do?
SPEAKER_05Oh god. Kills me. Anyway, I am dying.
SPEAKER_08Thank you guys for listening. Thank you. Apologies for the link. Apologies. And um, we will catch you in our tenth episode. How exciting!
SPEAKER_05Yeah, do you want to plug the socials that we don't post on?
SPEAKER_08You can follow us on Instagram at OTCL Podcasts. Um that's actually the only place that we are.
SPEAKER_07Oh. Are we not on email? We are. I think it's otcl podcast at gmail.com.
SPEAKER_08If that's not the email, it's in the show notes. Um otherwise, thank you guys for listening. It's been a long one, it's been a chaotic one. Um, but we hope that you learned something and we hope that you laughed. And um, yeah. Good night.
SPEAKER_04Bye. Good night. I love every single one of you so so much.
SPEAKER_08Okay, do that's nice.
SPEAKER_04Thank you, and thank you. Oh, we didn't even celebrate our milestone, we'll celebrate in the next episode.
SPEAKER_08Oh, yes, we'll celebrate in the next episode. Okay, bye guys, love you all.
SPEAKER_04Bye, lovelies. Bye bye.