4. Maybe It's Because We're Broke

Your Friday just got a lot better becauseee episode 4 is finally here!

This week, it's a proper catch-up. We talk about anxiety, the pressure to have it all together and whether our self-worth is a bit too wrapped up in what we do for work. We also get into the sheer madness that is Nigerian wedding attendees because how did we get here???

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

In the wise words of Zlatan himself, he says, Overthinking of his problem.

SPEAKER_00 0:09

Better days are coming, my will bear.

SPEAKER_01 0:12

Oh. Come on. Like at the end of the day, you and this influencer baby colleagues. Right? You're going out of your way to hire a videographer and a photographer, and you hire a studio and you pay for makeup artists twice. You pay for ghillie artists twice. Like, what are we talking about? Like because why are you buying big brother Nigeria contestants a home? Yep. Are you okay? Hi, friends. Hi, family. Hi Winola. I'm Ayowande. Your favorite cousin. Navigating this thing called life. And welcome to our thing called life. Enjoy. See ya. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Hi guys. Hello, everyone. Hi, friends. Welcome to episode four. Wow. So is this the fourth episode? Yeah, it is. It is. Wow. It certainly doesn't feel real. Doesn't feel real. I kind of love this for us. Consistency is key. Thank you very much. Couldn't have said it. Period. But episode four. Let's see what this episode is gonna give us. Let's see. Like every episode is just like a learning experience. Yeah. Like it is actually just a learning experience. And I just don't think we're gonna hit the like states until like episode 50. I think it was just gonna be. But when I when I'm in the states is like the one where you're like, ah, nah. Like even you love listening to your own podcast. You're like, yeah, this shit's amazing. It's too good. You know, I love listening to our podcast on like 1.5 speed. Oh, you do? That's yeah. I don't know if I said this last time, but I genuinely think that my voice, I don't I don't know about yours, but I think that my voice sounds better faster. Really? I used to do that with my TikTok videos. I used to watch my TikTok videos on 2x speed. I just used to think that, like, wow, I love her voice and she's ticking so quick. Um, but yeah, that's just that's just my little random table of the day. Why? How is it? Because you actually don't get a real you just you just don't get it in real time. I feel like you're trying to rush. I feel like you're in a hurry. And I feel like you're I'm in a hurry because Yeah, because I recorded the podcast, you know, I did speak on it. Yeah, so you so clearly we haven't reached the state because you are in a hurry to listen to things to make sure everything is okay. Because I just want to make sure, because honestly, once we finish recording, I forget what we spoke about. Yeah. And I love, I genuinely love that people are so like in love and engaged with this podcast and want to talk to us about every little detail. Like, I genuinely love that and I want to do it with you guys, but I don't remember half the things I say. So, like, when you want to talk to me about it, please can you just give me a bit of context? Like, oh, when you said this, because people will message me and would just like say, like, we'll just it would just be like a long stream of messages of like their responses to things that I've said. And I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, babes. Like, I I need context. Where are you? What are you listening to? Like, and I do love that. I think it's really, I think it's really like cute. It's very cute. It's very cute. Yeah. But they should actually just be giving context because people will just be like, oh my gosh, yeah, and that part is so crazy. Yeah, and I'm like, what part are you talking about? Have no clue what you're saying. Gosh, man. But yeah, episode four. I appreciate it though. I think it's yeah, I think it's cute, and I think it's sweet that people like really listen intently to the things that we're saying and like know the moments of things that we say anyway. Anyway, anyway, anyway. How have you been? How's life? I've been swell. Life has been that's been okay, actually. If I think about that. That's good. My friend was like, oh, you're gonna get on the podcast and be like, oh, you had such a tough week. Oh, it's hard. Not them knowing you they know. I was like, actually, I don't think I'm feeling like doing that. I want to be good vibes, I want to be good energy. I'm in a good, decent mood. I feel like that's good. The devil tried me. Um actually, what I was gonna say is anxiety is so scary. Um, and I think men, people who uh deal with chronic anxiety, my heart actually goes out to you because I feel like I started out my week feeling so anxious about what this week would give. Like I was just so nervous, so scared. And to be very honest with you, I still don't really understand what anxiety is. I try to like Google it so many times, but I still I'm always just like, okay, well, like what does that like what does it actually mean? But for me, it's like I get nervous, I get scared, I overthink everything, I can't sleep because I'm just like, oh, was how's the week gonna play out? And I I think for me the context was I had been assigned to do like some work this week in an area that I haven't worked on in a long time and with someone I've never worked with before, and so just like everything was just seeming against me. Um, and I was coming off of working for six months with someone that really liked me, got on so well with that person, I was able to get away with a lot. Do you understand? And it was of course certain coins and I was like, guy, do you understand? And yeah, it was just very nerve-wracking, and I feel like in my in this job, because we're always moving around in projects a lot. I I don't think I've ever gotten to that point where I start something new and I'm just like, okay, like and by the way, I have been working for five years, I celebrated my 5th work anniversary. LinkedIn reminded us. Yeah, so I saw people messaging me, I was like, oh gosh. But um, back to the subject, sorry, I don't want to get carried away, but yeah, it was just like crazy, and I know when those feelings come, I kind of have like coping mechanisms now, so I know how to suppress them. I was going to ask. Although I don't think you should suppress them. Yeah. Like, I think I think you should I think suppressing it is not really dealing with the issue. Like, I think you need to be able to like figure out why you're feeling that way and work through that feeling. Yeah. As opposed to just like suppressing it and just trying to know. Everything you said applies. It's I have coping mechanisms to work through what I feel. So it was kind of like, yeah, okay, why am I feeling this way? Oh, I could identify that it's because of this project. Because no, it wasn't even projects, it was just like one week's piece of work. It was because I hadn't worked with someone before, I hadn't worked in this kind of space, blah blah blah blah blah. And I just yeah, I quickly recognized what that was. Then I started to tell myself, okay, what's the worst that can happen? X, Y, and Z happened. Okay, how do I now prepare? Like, how can I set myself up for success? Right? It's like, okay, I make sure I go into the office every day. Because when I go into the office, I see people I can ask them questions, da da da da da da. Like, what what steps can I actively do to set myself up for success? And it helped I suppress it was the wrong way, but it helped manage how I was feeling throughout the week. And I can't even believe like Friday is here and the deliverable is like 90% done. Do you understand? Oh my god, we made it through. Thank you, Jesus. Um so yeah, so that I don't even know why I started talking about this anxiety, but I just want to go back to say people that deal with chronic anxiety, my heart is with you. Um and my soul is with you because it's very debilitating. It must be so so so difficult. And I really hope that whoever's listening to this that maybe is going through that or had that. Please, if you have anyone that you can speak to, if you don't, I can speak to me, can speak to anybody, like please just find avenues to channel that um as opposed to like keeping it inward and letting it like overwhelm you. Yeah. Yeah. I feel I s I s I suffer from anxiety as well sometimes. Actually, a lot of the time, and it leads to a lot of like overthinking and doubting your abilities and like something that has really I remember I used to be very anxious at work, but something that's really helped me with that um um has definitely just been doing it more and just feeling very confident that like I'm actually quite good at my job. Um, but then sometimes they will ask you to do something that you've never done before or that you haven't done in a while, and it starts to stress you out because then you start to feel like, oh my god, can I actually do this? Can I deliver? Like, can I live up to the expectation that these people have of me in their mind? Exactly. And then you just start to like overthink everything. But I think like genuinely trying to like getting to the roots of why you feel that way and working through it is so helpful. Yeah. Although I say this and like and I said this on the last podcast, I like regulate my emotions regularly, like I'm constantly regulating myself, and I'm still extremely anxious. I am a work in progress. Yeah, I'm actually a work in progress, but um it's tough, and I genuinely I understand what it's like to like be anxious about something, but I I I quite like that you said you have your coping mechanisms, and like you can you can recognize when you know you're feeling it in a certain type of way and you can work your way through it. I think that's really really useful. Yeah, and not everyone has that, you know. Some people it's just like a debilitating feeling, and they just like they can't actually do anything.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:28

Um makes me quite sad. That's me with my panic attacks. Like I remember one time, honestly. Now I think about it and it's like, girl, that was so dramatic. But one time, and I was actually talking about it earlier on this evening, maybe that's why it's fresh in my mind. When I was in uni, I used to buy these like advanced single tickets from Manchester to London and London to Manchester. Because like those tickets were like 11 pounds. Yeah. And I was a broke uni student, and I needed to make sure that like I could get back home when I needed to. Yeah. And like those tickets are like at a specific time, you cannot miss it, you can't get on another train, nothing like that. And I remember one time I was going back to uni and I left the house late. Now, from that point is really when I should have just been like, oh, just buy another ticket. But I didn't. I ended up getting an Uber from my house to Houston Station. I ended up missing the train. And then in the middle of Houston Station, I had a massive panic attack. Wow. Like I just burst into tears. I couldn't move. I couldn't function, I couldn't talk. Like, I just I was physically shaking. Wow. Um, and people around me were trying to like understand what was going on, and I couldn't explain what was happening. And one really like kind woman um like took my phone and was like, is there someone I can call? Is there someone I can call? Um, both my parents were out of the country at that point, and they called one of my friends. Um, I think she was the last person that I spoke to, which is so interesting because we're not friends anymore, and I guess we weren't friends at the time, but I guess that's a story for another day. Yeah. Um, but they called her um and she came and she like found me. So she came, I think she was around Houston area. Um, she came and she found me like literally shaking in the middle of Houston station, and she just kind of like talked me off a ledge, and she was just like, It's okay, like you missed the train, but it's not the end of the world. Like, but I think my brain couldn't compute that like this one thing that I have, I have like so meticulously like planned out hasn't gone to plan.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:46

And now not only do I like have to now spend extra money, I now have to like do all of this again tomorrow. Yeah, which causes so much more anxiety. Um, and I remember I used to try and explain what having like a panic attack was to my dad, and he just never understood it until he experienced it one time for himself. Wow. And then he was like, okay, so those panic attack things you used to talk about, I think I get it now. I'm like, really, really. And so like I really empathize with people that you know suffer from anxiety or panic attacks or just anything in that realm because like it's not really your fault, it's just the way your brain is wired. You know, it is, it's really, really, really not your fault. It's not your fault at all. It's not how was your week? Genuinely, I feel like I'm I'm being made to work for my paycheck this week. And I don't really appreciate that. Like, life is meant to be seriously soft.

SPEAKER_00 14:48

Your employees? Employers.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

Life is meant to be seriously, seriously soft. So imagine my surprise when today's Friday and I've been on calls all day today. How many say that from 9 30 a.m.? No, from 9 a.m., I've been on back-to-back calls. Um, which means that once the calls are done, my last call was I think I finished my last call at four. That's when I can actually start doing the work. Now, hello PM. Who told you that? Who told you people that that's what I came here to do? I'm looking for enjoyment. Guy, the amount of time, but I um fantasize having like a job that doesn't require you to use your brain. The amount of time, like I just keep thinking. I think today when I went together and do my hair, I said, So this woman walks around the salon, checks hair. Is your hair alright? Maybe if somebody's having small problems. Is it the manager of the salon? The one that will be walking around, like, are you good? You good? You good? She does that from it to whenever that salon closes. She can press phone in between. Whoa! I just kept thinking to myself, man. God. But I don't I don't actually think that there's any job. Let me tell you something. I will excel over excel at that job. I will be able to do that. But I don't think that there's any job that that you don't utilize your brain. I think that you think that she I think you think she's not utilizing her brain. I don't want to minimize what she said. A very different job. I'm not trying to minimize the job, what she said. But she does. But there are other aspects of her job that we don't see. Oh, yeah, obviously, like being on your feet all day. Yeah, and also just like there's probably pressure on her. I I also have no idea whom this person is or what salon you went to, but like that's probably Let's call her Jane. There's probably pressure on Jane to make sure that like the salon is full, to make sure that the staff are happy, to make sure that clients are not complaining, like all these things, like how much money did we make, and you know, all these little, little things. But I don't actually think that there's any job where you're not I mean, you're probably right. You don't have to utilize your brain. Wait, so two things. First of all, you're right, because when I think about when I used to work at Peacock, where I was, oh I probably was not, and by the way, for those who don't know what Peacock is, it's just like some random store. I'm not missing much where they just sell clothes, but it's so basic. Like I think it's giving up the run for its money 100%. Literally. When I used to work at Peacock, like I dreaded going into the office, like the office. Oh god, the shop. Go to the shop, dreaded it. I was like, oh my god, I'm going in tomorrow, wow. Insane for water. Like I needed £10. Are you joking? Insane. Which I wasn't gonna give you any £10, like eight pounds an hour. Anyway, I realize I've also hijacked you saying how your week was, so we shouldn't forget that. But that's the first thing I was gonna say. Uh, I did hate that. So, like, you are right. The second thing is, I mean, like, there's levels to using your brain at the end of the day. Right? There's like okay, I'm using my brain because I need to make sure that I'm scanning. The thing I'm scanning is making sense. I need to make sure that everybody, the customers are happy, I'm going around and regularly checking, like this, that. And then there's using your brain. Yeah. You need to think about what the hell you're gonna tell these clients. You think about what the hell analysis you're going to do. The hell it is you're gonna tell your manager. Oh my, there is levels to use your brain. There is levels to use your brain. That level five that I am having to use every day. I just need it to chill a little bit. It's a chill a little bit. But anyway, back to what my brain was hot today. Um, but how has my week been other than the fact that work has been kind of busy? My week has been okay. I've been really thinking about the fact that like it's no, I'm it's no surprise to anyone listening that I want to change my job. Um and I've been applying. Please, my employers, if you're listening to this, please. I want to change my job, doesn't mean you need to fire me. Okay. I've been working with you guys for three years, okay?

SPEAKER_02 19:29

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

I'm entitled to leaving. It's the longest I've stayed in a job, yeah. Um and so it's time to do something new, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 19:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

Um, and I've been applying for work and I just haven't really been like getting anywhere. And I think it's only up until like now that you've asked this question that I've really just clocked that like it's seriously affecting like maybe just I don't want to say my self-esteem, because it's not affecting my self-esteem, but it's definitely affecting like my mental sometimes, where I'm just a bit like, damn, like and I guess I didn't realize how much of my self-worth was tied to the job, the work that I do. Yeah, and like I feel very confident that in in my job, yeah, I'm I think that I'm not even I think I know that I'm very good at my job. Yeah, and if if I needed to lead a PR campaign for a TV show or for a film, I know I can do it. I can I know everything that I need to do. Yeah, but the fact that I've been trying to to leave and it's like I just can't get anything, it doesn't help that the job market is not great. Yeah, but the fact that I have been trying to leave and I just can't get anything, it it does make you think like uh-uh, like what's wrong with me? You know? Um so that's been something that I guess I've been trying to do. If somebody was to ask you who is Oingala, like how would you define yourself? How would you define yourself as well as so funny because defining characteristics? Okay, not characteristics, like what's the thing. It's so funny because like if you were to ask me to define myself, I don't think I would lead with my job or anything to do with my job. Like, unless it's a job interview, right? In which case I'd be like, oh, I'm an entertainment. Yeah. Um but if someone was to ask me about like myself outside of that, I'd I probably lead with like. Oh my god. I didn't work in PR, but anyway. Sorry. I love entertainments. Period. Get some respect on my name. Um, I would lead with like the characteristics that I have. Like I would. Lead, yeah. I think I would lead with the characteristics and just like my personality as opposed to like the job that I do or like the work that I do. But I think that like it would end up coming up at some point that, like, oh, and I also do this and I work in this, and like um, I think at the same time, I'm also just trying to like there's a lot of things that I'm trying to decide. I'm trying to make like very big decisions, and I I'm and I guess I we can unpack this in a later episode, but I I would love to talk about like the moment I realize that this life that I'm living is actually mine, and the fact that I am truly in charge of the decisions that I that I make. And I think for a very long time I wasn't aware of that. And I know it's it sounds really bizarre, right? It's like it sounds so bizarre. But I think for the longest time so logical to me. I wasn't aware that like maybe not aware, maybe aware is the wrong word, but I think for the longest time I just wasn't certain that like this life, like I have to be the one to make the decision for the thing that I want to do. And I feel like there's a part of me, I always say I feel like I say like a lot on this podcast. Oh my gosh, I'm gonna change that. Don't worry. I have to change that to change.

SPEAKER_00 23:26

Be yourself, be myself, be yourself, but also like it's a part of it in an interview.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

Um I'm also trying to like decide whether I want to transition in my career and just like other things that I want to do. So I think all of that culminating with the fact that like I'm also not even just like moving far along in the process, it's kind of weighing me down just a little. Um but that's all, that's my week. It's fine. I don't want to be a Debbie Downer on this podcast. Oh, it's an important topic to touch on. And so we're gonna do that. I think like But I do think it's important to talk about it because I think for oh, I think again, I think for a lot of people, we are so afraid to make like big decisions because there is there's massive fear of like, oh, but what if it doesn't work out, or like what if what if it goes goes to nonsense, or like it could even just be like people around you putting fear into this idea that you have of something that you want to do. But at the end of the day, like you are the only person who truly knows like what you want and why you want what you want, you know? Yeah, um, so yeah. I think of obviously it also we have to survive. So do you understand? If we worked in a if we lived in a world where you know money was not a problem, you didn't need money, but you'd be taking risks anyhow, probably. You would probably just, you know, if an opportunity comes your way, they're telling you it's an internship thing, you would take it, you'd run with it, but like you can't afford to do those kind of things anymore. No, the six are lost higher. Yeah, exactly. The sticks are way higher than they were before. Um so there's that element of it, but I think people should also just remind, and I'm speaking to myself here, because I know that I've had those I work in an environment with extremely intelligent people, like extremely, extremely intelligent people. As in every day, you'll just be like, Yeah, I'm dumb. Like I am the fool, and I don't even know why I'm here, I don't even know why they hired me. Um, but I I what I'm trying to say is people should actually you need to see your star power more, like you need to actually believe that you are higher, like you are worth hiring, which you 110% are. I don't think anyone needs to tell you that. Do you know how many interviews you've done and you've actually like made it to the final round and then whatever, whatever you want? Yeah, no, 100%. I think people need to just be reminded, like there's so there's so many circumstances around whether or not you get something, be it's you apply for a job, be you applied for a I don't know, a scholarship, you applied for this, you applied for that. There's so many circumstances in which why it didn't go to you, right? And that's actually okay, but don't take away from the fact that you are like bruh. I don't even want to start on your whole education because that's already sets you above and beyond the state. We do not need to speak about me. No, no, I know we don't. I'm just saying like that already should give you that pep in your step step. And I think sometimes we all need to move around like the white man. I'm telling you, we all need to take a leaf out of the white man's book, and okay, maybe that's not the best thing to say. I don't care, I'm saying it. These niggas don't give a crap if they make a mistake, at least that's how they that's how it comes across to also. They make a mistake, if they do this, okay, cool, move on. Because maybe the world is in their favor, and you know, guys, I am not an idiot. I understand that you know, white men can do and live and act as they want to, but I'm just saying, if maybe we just lived a little bit like reckless, you know, I'm shaking my shaking my shoulders, like be reckless. That's a little bit, just had a little more. So you're like, I am that girl, like yeah, I am that girl, and oh, they didn't give me this job because they couldn't afford me. Do you understand what I mean? That's what me. I tell myself actually say that to yourself sometimes. But what I'm trying to say is you need to just remember that you are horrible, you are gonna kick ass at whatever it is that you're gonna be, and the right thing is gonna come to you in the right time. And if it hasn't been working out now, it hasn't been working out now. Like, keep going, keep pushing, keep trying, yeah, and your time will come. And baby, when your time comes, it is going to overflow, it is going to overflow. You are gonna be tired. By God's grace, you are gonna be tired, and you're gonna be that that meme of that person that's like when you're sitting there in the bathroom crying about the job that you pray for, that is gonna be thank god. I don't know if that's a blessing or a curse. It's a blessing, it's a blessing because you have to do it. But it's a lot, it's a lot, so um, yeah, that's that's just my own word of Islam. I'm about to even enter that whole job hunting world. It's ghetto, it's Helena, it's horror. But I'm just gonna just give it, just gonna give it all, you know. If they say And then you just have to say you need 10 years of experience, I don't care. I'm applying Yeah. Do you know something that's really funny? Yeah. This girl in my office, ah God, anyway, this girl in my office, um, she recently joined the company. Um, she recently joined the company from another company, right? And in the other company, she was like, um, let's let's say she was an assistant, right? So her joining my company, yeah, um, she got a promotion, she got a she moved a step up. About six months into her joining, they opened up a position for a managerial position. Yeah, right? This baby applied. Of course. And I just thought to myself, I need that sort of confidence. And I think the thing that killed me the most was that she was like, yeah, like I can obviously get it. I said, you were an assistant six months ago. Like, six months ago, you were an assistant. Yeah, there's no way that the job is going to you, but yeah, I admire your confidence. I am I admire your confidence like mad. Like mad. Like that is the kind of confidence that I think everyone should actually emulate. Where your job you're what that is what Mike Todd, shout out to Mike Todd. That's what that's what they call crazy faith. Because that's a crazy faith. That is seriously crazy. When they say you miss 100% of the chances you don't take. You don't take. Do you understand? Literally, so literally, she doesn't get it, okay? And what about it, Miss Samantha? Literally nothing, you know, literally nothing. So many people who have been privileged enough to you know go to decent schools, have done well in life, or whatever, you actually end up getting in your own way. You are your biggest problem because you have a belief that a manager needs to act and be and and have this many years of experience and look a certain way and act a certain way, and da da da. Yep. And so you're just like, yeah, I'm not there, I can't, I don't think I whatever, whatever. I can't. Who's there? Who's that? And then you end up seeing the person that they gave the job to, and you're like, uh-uh. Uh-uh. But I know more than this person. Oh, I I I have more experience than this person. Oh, I've worked on more projects than this person, I've done this, that, and the third. It's it's not about that. It's really not. I mean, in some cases, it is, right? But for a lot of these things, it's not. It's really who can give the best interview, you know, who can carry themselves well, who is capable of saying that, like, I may not know it all, but I'm willing to learn. I'm willing to do, you know. And also relationships. Guy. The relationship that people in the workplace. I thought you meant like I thought you meant relationships romantic. People don't like to say this thing, but you can go a long way by just who you like who likes you, who's investing, like you can go so far. Obviously, that comes with a minimum of you're probably decent at what you do and you can get stuff done. But there might be people who are better than you, but that person just likes you. Like they just have taken a liking to you. That thing can take you far. Yeah, that thing can take you so far. So never underestimate that. People can say you're a personality hire, period. It doesn't matter. I'm a personality hire, take it as that. So yeah, that's just my tidbit for people. Like, just you have to have the confidence of someone that doesn't know, like a child that doesn't know the risk. Yeah, you genuinely, you genuinely have to fake it till you make it. Like, one of the things that people always tell me in my office is that, like, oh, you're just so confident. And I'm just like, I like that you think that, but inside I'm shaking in my boots, but like you have to present yourself like you are this confident person. Because also, like, that's how you want to be addressed, yeah. Right? Like, yeah, I don't want you to address me as some meek person or as someone that is like too afraid to do anything. No, no, no, no, no. Like, I want you to see me as this person that is capable inside and maybe dying. Well, you guys don't need to know that. He said I can tell my people. Overthinking of is a problem. Better days are coming, my will bear.

SPEAKER_03 33:51

Oh, come on.

SPEAKER_01 34:00

Guys, whenever you're in doubt, just remember what Slatter said. Overthinking of it doesn't do. Remember that. I mean, the Bible also says it, you know. Why do you call me like that? Where is it? The scripture is uh um oh my god, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, you put me on the spot. The scripture is um it's not numbers, the scripture is that like do not like worry about anything because like what good does I'm paraphrasing now, but like worrying doesn't add anymore to your days. Something along those lines no no no there is a scripture that is basically like do not worry about tomorrow for tomorrow will bring its own you know challenges, so you need to live in the present. That's the scripture. Do not worry about tomorrow for tomorrow. Um bye. That one you will not forget. That whole you will not forget. Ah people will not think that this babe doesn't know her Bible. I do, okay, I do, it's just late, okay. My brain is just my brain is just tired. Maybe you write into the caption when you release the podcast, maybe so that people can be enlightened, so that the girls can go read it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:30

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 35:31

Um, anyway, I wanted to talk about something that has been on my mind recently. Um, and by the time this episode comes out, like this um will be like a week old, but I'm sure everybody would have seen it. But I just think I really want to talk about how I think um as attendees of weddings, we've lost the plot. Here we go. There we go. I think we've lost the plot. Who is me? And um attendees of weddings. Don't count three in it. I'm not there. And I need us all to just like one come back down to earth. Yeah. But also two, just like reevaluate what you're doing this for. So um, this is this conversation is being triggered by a TikTok video that I saw by this influencer. I think her name is Kamsi. Um, and she was basically talking about how she was getting ready to go to a very popular wedding that happened this week. And um she said that for meet the Dabsons, okay. Make sure you're factual. Let's speak correct. Anyway, she basically said that um she decided that for this wedding she was going to like get a makeup artist and like get a photographer, and she was really gonna like go all out and capture content, which is an interesting thing in itself that you feel the need to capture content of you getting ready for somebody else's wedding. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. Um and she said that like there was too much traffic and that she ended up doing her makeup herself. I didn't really understand that. But the point I was trying to make was that when she got to the content studio of where she was going to do her photography sessions, she saw that people had already started posting content and it's midday.

SPEAKER_02 37:34

The wedding was that day, right?

SPEAKER_01 37:36

It's midday, it's noon, and people have posting content. And she was shocked that, like, uh-uh, how are you people ready? One, two, how are you ready that you're posting edited pics? And the photographer said to her, bearing in mind this wedding was on a Wednesday, I just feel like this is a very important piece of info. The photographer said to her, Oh, that you don't know that these people came, um, a lot of people came and booked on Saturday. So they wore their outfit, did makeup, did hair, tied ghillie on Saturday to do content so they could post it on Wednesday.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:16

Um, and I just think that we've all lost the club. Because at what point, like at what points do we say enough is enough? Like, at what points are we going to be like, you know what, fair. And then the other video that spurred on this what what what do I call this anger? It's not even anger, I'm not even angry, just spurred on this confusion. Yeah. Um, was another influencer who did a whole video about like get ready with me to shoot content for um Meet the Dabsons. And it was like the day, the day before the wedding. So she did all her makeup, she wore her outfit, she did everything, she shot all her content. She was now like, so that on the day I could be free, I didn't have to like bother anybody to take pictures of me. Um, I could just be free to enjoy the wedding. And then she does this whole wedding vlog, and at no point do I see her posting a picture or posing with the bride or anything with the bride or with the groom. Yeah. It's just her and her fellow influencer colleagues.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

And then she did a whole breakdown about like how much she spent, and she spent like 1.1 million naira. And so I just thought to myself, like, so what's your point? Like, at what point do we start to say, guys, this is too, this is too much? I don't know this influencer, nor do I know the influencer that was getting married. So, really, this is not this is not really about them. But like, from what I took from the influencer that spent 1.1 million naira, right, it doesn't seem like her and the bride are friends. Right? That at my POV, I don't know. But it doesn't seem like that that they are friends. So I'm like, you are spending one, you know, the one, you and millions and paper colleagues to attend the wedding of you're going out of your way to hire a videographer and a photographer, and you hire a studio and you pay for makeup artists twice, you pay for ghillie artists twice. Like, what are we talking about? Like, and like at what point do we start to be like, you guys, this is so ridiculous? Like, we have completely lost the plot of like what a of what like a wedding is supposed to be, what a regular wedding attendee is supposed to look like. Like, I like I I'm just I'm so baffled. Yeah that like the first thing that you're even thinking about when it comes to like attending someone's wedding is like I need to make sure I capture my content. What yeah, that you're thinking about capturing your content that a wedding is on Wednesday, you're you're already thinking that I must capture my content on Saturday. What? Yeah, like we have we have strayed so far, we really have so far, we really have and like it's so bizarre for me honestly. I can't speak too much because uh one of my best friends is a content creator and I always champion her. I champion her. I have no idea where you're going with this, but I genuinely think the content creators, like content creators in the wild are just too much for me. It's too much for me. I think it's yeah it's something I just don't I can't understand. Um I struggle to understand the need to the the the the desire to create a video or something or content for the world to see. I think it's also just a personality thing. I'm more of a let's just kind of like enjoy the moment. The moment uh as opposed to having to capture everything. Uh and I feel like it's you know, you know, I I I used to enjoy I I am someone who takes a lot of pictures and videos like have nearly a hundred thousand pictures on my phone um and videos on my phone. That's insane. It's insane by the doesn't make sense. But I I I absolutely love capturing moments, and I used to post a lot on Instagram, on Instagram stories, I used to want people to see how great and big my life was and stuff. But then it got to a point in time where you just start to think, what am I actually doing this for? Because now instead of me just capturing naturally, I'm thinking, oh, how can I make this look better? Or how can I make this look even more fun? How can I make this look even more aesthetic? Uh and it kind of just ruins the moment because you're not spending time, if you haven't even thought about this before, you're spending time thinking about oh which angle, and this is like okay, what is the point of all of this? And I think that was one of the reasons why I had to take a break. But I not even just one, I had multiple people friends who are like content creators, and again, uh like do you this this is what you enjoy, you love doing this, it's fun and things like that. But I think within boundaries, right? At the end of the day, I actually respect the person who went to go and do our contents before. Like, if you have the money to blow, you have the money to spend, go and spend your 1.1 million. That's crazy to me. I'm someone that will go and spend my money on a holiday or something else, right? But that might not you might not care about those things. For you, you might care about like getting the right cool. Like, I actually respect that because it means that when you're there, maybe you're actually just going to live in the moments and enjoy the moments as opposed to thinking. But are you? I can't I haven't gotten and I don't know if you've ever been around content cre a content creator before, but like if they don't get the right short angle thing, their day is ruined. Like ruined. There's no there's no point talking to them.

SPEAKER_02 44:17

Ruined.

SPEAKER_01 44:17

And like, shout out to all my friends who do this because they know themselves, like they will know what I'm talking about. But they they it's like it will take at least 30 to 45 minutes, maybe an hour, to shake them out of it. And I just don't understand. So the summary of my argument is I cannot deal with content creators. I think it is a little bit too much for me. Um but I also see where you're coming from in terms of like we have actually gone so far, so extreme. We've gone so far. I'm so surprised it's even 1.1 million. Like um I would have thought it would have increased because I I saw a video a couple of years ago where B was saying that she was spending almost 800, if not more, on getting ready for her friend's wedding. You can't tell me inflation has not affected these people. That thing should probably be 1.5 million, if I'm being very honest with you. So spend your money and do whatever the hell you want, it takes absolutely no sense. But you're not gonna pressure me to not go and start spending 250k, 350k because I want to look like what I think I think the thing that I just can't fathom, or the thing that I just don't understand, is that like what's the point? Like I'm just I'm just I'm really struggling to understand what the point is. Yeah, like and I and I think that like we have turned weddings into a farce, like we've we have completely lost lost like the meaning of what it is, like to watch people like get married, and I think that a lot of people, and I'm not speaking about this couple in particular, but I think a lot of people care more about like what the wedding is than like the actual like the actual marriage or whatever, and I think that it's just another way of like um I don't know showing that you have it. And it's what's um what's interesting to me is that you said something really interesting just now, and I kind of want to unpack that a little when you said um you wanted to show how big your life was. Yeah. What what like what what do you mean by that? And why did you why did you feel like that was something you needed to do? Why did I feel like that was something I needed to do? Maybe I need to unpack that with a therapist as opposed to a podcast. But like what why did I do it? I think you start to get um I'm trying to just I'm trying to put myself in my old self shoes, right? This is why I was taking a session. Like, I haven't been in that mind state in a long time, so I'm trying to think what it was. Obviously, it starts off with like, oh, you maybe you're having a really cool experience. Maybe you're having a fine dining experience that is just so awesome. You can't believe this is happening. This is so cool, and you want to show people what you're doing. So, you know, you might take pictures and share it, and then people start to react like, oh wow, this, da-da-da. And it's I think it it's a nice feeling, right? It's like you like the endorphiness, yeah. Like it's like validation, yeah. Okay, people actually think the things I'm doing is what I'm sharing is cool, and what I'm sharing is fun, okay, cool. Um, then you go, you know, you may go on a holiday somewhere, you post again, and someone will be like, wow, I can't believe this, and you start to feel like wow, actually, like my life is is pretty cool. Um, so I think that was probably one of the reasons why I would like post a lot. I don't know. Another thing that came to my head was was is it because of interactions with people? Like, did I want to use was it a channel for me to maintain social interactions with people? I don't know. I actually don't think it was that. I generally think it was like I just love capturing moments, and I've always loved capturing moments. And then I started to share it, and from people reacting and people like asking for more. Like one example, when I was working abroad, I remember I just shared something. People like, oh my god, we would love to see more of your day, and da da da da da. And then I just started posting more and more and more. But what turned me off was again just it it lost its um innocence, it really lost its innocence, and it just became you would overthink a lot. Oh, what if oh no one reacted to this one? Oh, I'm at a concert, and maybe like I have this bad habit of screaming so loudly in my videos, and I post it, and it's like you're hearing yourself back, and you're like, oh my god, ew, now people have this impression of me that I'm this kind of person, you know what I mean? And it just like loses the innocence of what it is, what and what it was meant to be, and it doesn't become fun anymore, which is why I was just like, Yeah, I just can't do it. So, yeah, to answer your question, it's just it is it became like a validation thing, really. I think that was because that's what I think a lot of these people are doing it for. Yeah, I think that they're doing it to show that like that their life is like big.

SPEAKER_00 49:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:48

Um, and big is right, like they can define big however they that however they see fit, right? Um, because I like I just can't fathom.

SPEAKER_00 49:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:00

Because you're not you're also not doing this for everyone's wedding. There are some people that are with choma good hair. You know, you can be rest assured that Choma Goodhair is going to get a videographer and a photographer for any event that she's stepping up. She has that on a retaining. Um, what do you mean? Like, literally, you can expect that her outfits are going to be extremely extravagant and over the top. Like, that is just who she is, right? But I feel like there are certain people that just you're not doing that for every event, you know. So I'm just like, I'm just trying to understand what the rationale is. Yeah, that for this event of a person that is not even your friend, you are willing to spend over a million naira. Like, and I think what like what like it's just it's so bizarre because I'm just like in like I think. Over a million naira on this one event, yeah. I can't I can't compute a couple of things you also forget the clout element of it. Because I mean I'm remembering myself as well. Like, oh, if you post something, let's say I would post that I went to this particular event, people would be like, wow, and then maybe they have a different impression of you, like, oh they have it, they have an impression of you that oh, okay, like so okay, so you hang out with these kind of people, so like now in other people's eyes, you are in higher standing or whatever. Yeah, so maybe someone might see you out and they would invite you something, or they would like do you know what I mean? There's there's actually that hidden clouds, like I want people to know that I was at this waiting. Yes, which I also understand. I also understand like the world does the world thrives on like perception and how you're perceived. Yeah, that is literally what like that that is what the world thrives on. So I completely understand. Um, and I understand wanting to, especially if you're trying to be like a content creator, and something that I like something that I don't really understand and would I guess would love to understand a bit more is like I don't really understand the way if I tell you what time it is, it's on my mind like mad. Like contemplatorslash influence. I I don't understand that industry, I just said understand again. Yeah, um, I yeah, there's no other word I can use. I don't understand that industry, but I don't get it. I don't get it. I I actually don't, and I also don't really understand like their fans, and I think their fans are like yeah deeply obsessive and like deeply parasocial. So obsessive. And um, yeah, if if they're not at an event, I can imagine their fans being like, um, why didn't you go to this event? Are you not friends with this person? Like, oh, so you didn't go to this event. So, like, I can and I also I I also get that like you need to spend money to like make money, right? And there's this perception that okay, maybe if you are constantly like showing up looking good to these places, that maybe brands will recognize you. But I think I I don't really agree, you know, 100%. But like, but you know, again, it's like if your ch if your line of work requires you to do this, like you have chosen to be a content creator. This is your joke. Actually, on a random aside, I saw I think it's so funny when men admit that they're content creators, because it's actually just an ick. And I saw this guy, like I yeah, it was really weird. You know, the Jay from the one that used was with Mimi on Love Island, and they won Josh, and he's now with like Jazz Caris, Josh. Sorry, I said Jay. Yeah, that guy had one agenda when he came on Love Island. Said, like, oh, I was either gonna go back to football training or whatever, or become a content creator, and I chose to become a content creator full-time. I was just like, that is so good for you, anyway. Um I think Josh Josh wants work required. I sorry one second, but I do think that Josh wants the dummy like trajectory. But the problem is that like you're just you're not dummy. Sorry, yeah, yeah, anyway, you should keep on content creating. Um if yeah, if your line of work requires you to you know do these things, because maybe if you go and if you spend 200k, the level that you're gonna get versus what some people are gonna get. Like, guys, some people were posting coming out of a Lamborghini for their own content for this world, like you are not your your small video is not gonna go viral and you are competing in a very competitive um market. So if that is if by if by purely speaking from a job point of view, like this is my job, I have to do this. Fine, baby girl, do whatever the hell you want to do, cool for you. But I don't I actually don't even care. The second thing I was actually gonna say is just like I wish I would just bring back the simple simplicity of life, but like I I feel like social media, and I hate to sound like one of those grandpas and everything, but like it's been a blessing and it's good and it's nice because it helps you stay connected. Um, and people have like made incredible careers from it. But just like the simplicity of life where you're in a moment, you're with your friends, it's so fun, you're having a great time, you're laughing. No one needs to be recording that moment. No one is you're at a wedding, you're saying your vows, or you're having your first dance. Do people really need to post? Like, does everyone need to does this thing need to be posted on social media like like just the simplicity of certain things? I just wish we lived in I lived in a world where we could say we savor that more. That's just my only last reflection on this particular topic. Like let's just bring back enjoying life without the cameras, without anything. If you gotta do what you gotta do for work, keep it to me. Please leave it out of the rest of what people are trying to do. And I genuinely think I'm gonna be one of those people that probably doesn't allow cameras and like phones and being tellers. Like, I don't want to see that. I really don't want because I did not spend all this money, I did not gather all these people here today to make sure that we are capturing and doing the right content. Like, I feel like I will literally be one of those people that caps content even for myself. Yeah, like if you want to make up as it's 10 minutes, like I'm not doing beyond that. Okay, my actual photo should this is what I want to do. Because I just don't care about those kind of things, so yeah. But if you're if you're in a different headspace and you're the kind of person that has to do that, and like kudos to you, man. I can never understand. I guess I just I wish everyone the best of luck, but I just I don't want people to like see this and think that like this is like the norm because the girl started off her video being like uh being an being an Ashwebi girl for a Nigerian wedding is such hard work. And I'm like, well, it's not supposed to be, like, it's such hard work, but it's like you have gone out of your way to get a videographer and a photographer, also that you can post a picture on Instagram, by the way, or so that you can make it real and post it on and make a video and post it on TikTok or make it real and post it on Instagram, and it's like to what end? And like I I and I hate that like I just hate that this is just like becoming like the norm. Like you know, like when you see that an influencer or a celebrity is getting married, like there's an expectation that okay, all these people are going to like rent out content studio and they're going to get photographed. And I'm just like, but for what? Like this is so extreme. Like, why do we just have to take things and just go all the way to the extreme? I will just never understand that. And I mean, look, if that if this is how you want to spend your money, yeah, far be it from But remember who is getting married. Who? Remember who it's all yeah, a content creator is getting married. No, I get it. Obviously, this is the status of the obviously a content creator is getting married, and she invited all her colleagues, and the guy is a um, I think he's a music, he's a video producer, I think. Um and so obviously he has a lot of like industry friends as well. So I completely like I get it. I'm not like my issue isn't even with any of that, it's just more that like why are we making this the norm? You know, the HIB for that for that event was 250k. So many people were wearing it, and I'm just like, wow, you guys are 250k. And these days nobody is sewing and sewing an outfit for oh my god. Oh my god. I'm so sorry. It wasn't nice. Oh my god. Oh my god. No, you guys, you guys need to just we should just all be honest. Okay. It was not nice. That's not what we came here to talk about. I'm just me, I don't have any opinion on it. Um I just think that like if that's how you want to spend your money, please spend your money that way. But like, this is not normal. It's not the norm. Like, do you know how insane it is for you to go to somebody's wedding and you've carried a photographer there to somebody's events? Like if that's just what what do you think um all these other events would look like? AMBCAs and all those things where you choke all of them in one room. Like, I'm just like, this is so insane. Like, you go to somebody's wedding, and you're the only thing on your mind is how am I going to capture my content? Like, we've also just become such a selfish society. Like, yeah, but like no one's actually there for the couple. Yeah, they are not there for the couples. Yeah, they're not a little bit more. Selfish. Second of all, to rocks, drinks, enjoy yourself, and then chow. The couple, if you were to do a poll, the couple will probably be the last fourth reason why people actually go for a wedding. And and that's I'm even talking about outside of weddings that are fit that are like are this big. I've been to weddings where people have literally been like, I don't even know the couple. Yeah. That's Nigerian weddings, yeah. Which is wrong. I can't even I can't judge because I've definitely I've definitely gone to a wedding where I didn't know the couple. Um, it was not by choice. Um, I was taken there. Um I had a good time. The couple don't care. The couple wants that. That's what I'm saying. Like, do you not think if the couple do not want brand of people you can find your way to do that? But people do people want big weddings. Yes, of course. People want massive weddings. People want like people want people talking about their wedding, like like she had lots of like different yeah, she had lots of different like media outlets there. Like Bella Niger was there, for instance. Like, these are the things that people want. There was no child that you could not find there. I saw somebody eating Gary. Yeah, yeah. There was nothing that you could not find at the water. So I love Garyum sulfate, but like there's no way in hell I'm drinking Giriam Sulfate at a wedding. Like, what? Um, I've even I've even lost my train of thought. I remember this. I genuinely think we should just be doing, like, not we, because I will not subscribe to this, but I genuinely think people should just be like, we're throwing a bash. Like, like let's just call it a big thing. Yeah, let's just call it what it is. Yeah, like this is not a wedding. Have your wedding, but we just want to have all our loved ones in one room. Loved ones that people that we don't know and want to have turn up and have a good time. Because it's not this is not a wedding, it's a party. Yeah, it's a party. Yeah, because I think I think if it's called a party, like we we probably think about it differently, or we probably feel differently about it. Because it's just like, oh whatever, like it's a party, who cares? May as well start charging people for tickets. Yeah, but I'm just like, guys, like money back, let us all just come back down to earth. Like, first of all, the country is hard enough. Then again, like I don't know what jobs these people are doing. Maybe we're in the moon, maybe they're making a lot of money that may I'm just not privy to, but I know that there are a lot of people that are not making this much money, you know. And they're not at the wedding. Good point. Good point, they're not influencers. So on TikTok, they're watching, you know, and they're they're making content about oh, this is what I would I wouldn't have won this if I went, but you didn't. I think people were even like live streaming at presenting. Yeah, and they were live streaming at this wedding as well. But then it I have so many thoughts about just like the obsessive nature of like Nigerian fans and just like fan culture in Nigeria is so bizarre to me. Um, and it borderlines like Parasocial. I remember one like a couple years ago. I don't I don't know what big brother it was, where they all donated money. I'm just like, are you guys okay? Yes, Erica. Can never forget. I know someone who donated money. It's the person you very stupid. No, is it no? Me, how can I? Very, very silly girl. She she donated, she was even asking. I think she asked all the people. I was like, are you guys asked people that were you guys okay? Like, no, you donated money. I saw one where they got uh did they did they buy them a house? Did I make that up or they bought them a card? Yeah, I'm just like, but then this is so this is the thing that's interesting to me is that so you guys can mobilize and do things, it's just the wrong things. Because why are you buying Big Brother Nigeria contestants a home? Yeah, are you okay? Like, just like as a as a whole, we need to evaluate just like what what we are spending our time on. And I also get it, like the country is hard. The country is hard, and this is like a form of escapism for them. But like your escapism has to be capped at some point. Like, yeah, buying someone a home, buying them a car, donating money so that they can have money is kind of crazy. Yes, it's not normal. It's not normal, but anyway, that's just my little run of the day. Yes, and then it's also just like it's the average Nigerian is not making that much money. So, like, the level of like infatuation that you need to have with this person to part with your money that you worked hard for so that you so that they can excel. Uh, for someone you don't know, I don't know, it needs to be studied, I guess. Yeah, no, it needs to be studied. But anyway. Anyway, shout out to the Dabsons. Wish them a lifetime of sort of me too. I wish them a happy married life. I I genuinely enjoy. I've been seeing a lot of their content leading up to the wedding on TikTok, right? And it seems like you know that they're genuinely in love with each other. And I I think I think it's cute when you can see a man that is just as excited about the wedding day as as as a woman is. And I think he really it seems like he's really, really into it. Yeah. Like actually. Yeah, very cute. And like I love I love that for them. I don't know about kids, but oh my goodness. I'm just I'm just saying. Like I don't know about cute. But me, I thought it was I thought it was cute. Anyway, anyway, anyway. Um shout out to everybody. Um, let us know what you guys think about just like the excessive nature of Nigerian wedding attendees these days. Because I also I think we're losing the plot. And then because of this, people that are making clothes, I don't even want to call them designers, because some of them are not designers, are now charging a ridiculous amount. Because why did someone quote me 280k the other day to sew a dress? Yeah. And I just thought to myself, nah, I have to go and meet my baby Nagungi because we're all losing the plots. We're losing because you have an Instagram page does not mean does not give you license to charge any money, uh any amount you want. It actually doesn't. Yeah. Anyway. We are cooked. Cooked. See now, see, see, if we're clout chasers, we'll name this podcast hashtag meets the daps. Let us to ride that virality with. Nah, anybody got time for that. Like, shout out to the dafsies. Wish you guys smile success. If the dafsies is the reason why we trench, huh? That's what I mean. Like, that's the mindset. You gotta tap in. Yeah, I guess. Maybe we're also just being extremely simple-minded, you know, and we just we don't get it. Yeah, I think I think we are. I think we are, and we don't have to be able to do that. Yeah, also, I think, and I think that's the cocoa. That's why 1.1 million is looking like a. Yes, that is the cocoa, because ultimately we're broke. Actually, small. Yeah, small. That's why because should I part with one million to attend a colleague's wedding? I'm tapped. I'm not okay. See, when I enter, when I enter these kind of conversations, people where I'm just like, oh my god, how would it so serious? It's poverty. Honestly, what did David say? Sappa lets my people go. Hey, like genuinely, that's what I mean. So maybe all of this like confusion is coming from a place of the fact that I can't release because I don't even have the funds. This is the cocoa, you don't that's that's the cocoa. I don't have the money. Even come see, she knew she's coming from a place of poverty. She is, she is, because that person has made her money, and on that note, we are going to end this podcast. I'm just saying, oh god, thank you guys so much for listening. We hope you enjoyed today's episode. Let us know what how you guys deal with anxiety, if you have any. Let us know if you think that your self-worth is tied to your job or if it's tied to something that is beyond your control. And of course, let us know what you think about the crazy extravagant nature that is wedding attendees, particularly of celebrity or influencer weddings. Because it's only for those kind of events that we tend to see these things. And if you think that we're just we have this opinion because we're broke, because I think that's the cocoa, it's because we don't have the money. Um, you guys know what to do. Follow us on Instagram, because that's kind of only where we are at the moment.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:18

Not too loud down.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:21

And um we will see you in two weeks for episode five. Guys, please remember episodes come out every other Friday, not every Friday. Because if you see the state in which we're recording this now, you will know that we can't do this. Yes, it's actually 2 a.m. and it's 1 a.m. for the time. No, literally. You guys. So someone was just finished working three hours. Life is really quite dynamic. Um, you know. I want to give one shout out. I want to shout out to the Muslims. Um happy Eid or whatever. Um this comes out, it was gonna be E. Okay. I think it's next time. So you want to shout out the Muslims, you don't know when Eid. I want to shout out the Muslims because they do a lot for public holidays. They give us a lot of holidays. Yeah, it's a shame we don't have that here. I think Eid is actually Is it the same as Good Friday? Babes. I thought you were the one that knew the Bible. No, I know Good Friday is the 3rd of April. No, it's definitely way before that. It's on the 19th to the 28th. It's called Eid Al-Fithar. Okay, shout out to that. Um, happy Eid, happy Eid or whatever. Is it Eid or Ramadan? Happy Ramadan Mubarak. Is that it?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:40

Ramadan Mubarak.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:45

Oh my days. I don't know if this is that. Oh, it's not. Oh, I think it is because they've been forced it. It is Ramadan, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Ramadan. Ramadan Mubarak, guys. Hope you have a lovely Ramadan. All my Muslims love you guys so much. And I hope Allah really blessed you guys. I continue to bless you for the sacrifice that you continue to do for us. Thank you guys. And on that note, goodbye.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:18

Bye.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:20

See ya.