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Our Thing Called Life
Hosted by cousins Ayowande and Oyinlola, Our Thing Called Life is an extension of your family group chat. From faith and family to culture, relationships and the questions we're still figuring out, your favourite cousins are navigating this thing called life out loud.
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Our Thing Called Life
1. The (Re) Introduction
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Welcome to the first episode of Our Thing Called Life!!!!
If you’re joining us from Chatterbox, hi!!!! We’ve missed you, genuinely. It’s been a minute and we’re so glad to be back in your ears (yes, that sounds weird, but you know what we mean)
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In a minute. How do you feel about the first round of divorcees? Do you think that you are open to dating them? Yeah, but I think at 28 my frontal lobe fully developed. That's late.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That's late.
SPEAKER_02:So your boyfriend doesn't pay for your nine hours.
SPEAKER_01:Good morning! America. Hello.
SPEAKER_04:I don't think I can look at you certain ways because, like, the heart wants what it wants. Uh-uh, uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-uh. Yes. Hi, friends. Hi, family. I'm Oinala. I'm Ayawande. Your favorite cousin. Navigating this thing called life. And welcome to our thing called life. Enjoy. See ya. Oh, hi. Hi guys. Hi everyone. Hello, lovely people. Oh my gosh. This is just such a weird feeling. This is so strange. Very, very strange. And because you know, how many years has it been? Four. I can't believe it's actually been four years. It's been four years since we recorded a podcast episode. 2022. Were we in COVID? Uh 2022, girl. I don't know when COVID was. 2020. 2022. Okay. 2022 was our last episode. I'm so excited. Like I'm bursting with joy. I'm beaming inside. This is so fun already. It is. Anyway, hi guys. Hi everyone. Welcome back to well, not welcome back, but hello. Hello, and welcome to a brand new, a fresh podcast. Yes. Called Our Thing Cold Life. My name is Wayne Lola. My name is Ayowande. And welcome. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:We used to host a podcast called the Chatter Box Podcast.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Um why are you laughing? Who's who's laughing with you? Do you know what I find so interesting? I think, like, even when I think about the name of the podcast now, I'm just like, that is so weird. Yes. Because what is the chatterbox?
SPEAKER_03:Honestly, it makes me cringe.
SPEAKER_04:Like, we actually thought that was a good name at some point in time.
SPEAKER_03:Out of all the names that we came up with at that time. Remember, we had like the LA show.
SPEAKER_04:Aww. That's no, I like that. LA is timeless. I really like that. I really wanted that name because I wanted to move to LA so bad. And I thought I was gonna move to LA with you. No, deadass. I actually wanted to move to LA. I remember you wanted to. And I was like, okay, then I can do my relax. Yeah. But anyway, your favorite cousins. Your favorite cousins are back. How are you? How oh god, English. How are we related? For those that don't know us. We're cousins? Yeah, but like how are we related?
SPEAKER_03:From my mum and your mum are sisters.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, bestie sisters, everything. Sisters, cousins, cousins, family members. Yeah. So we've known each other your whole life. Oh my god, wow, scream from the rooftops. But you're only three years older than me. That's okay. Yeah. You know? What was it like growing up with me?
SPEAKER_03:It was actually really sweet because I didn't have a younger sibling. Yeah, you didn't. So I felt I felt like you were my younger sister. Um, which I don't know how your brother feels or felt about that. I don't think he cared. But in my head, you were my younger sister. Yeah. So I was just a bit like, cool, I have a younger sister that just lives in a different house to me. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And I loved being in your house because there was so there were so many people I know in the house. So being in the house was always fun because in my house it was just me. Yeah, it was, wasn't it? Remember, like when I was in when we went to that school, that one expression. Yeah, yeah. Um, and I spent the entire year in your house. You did all used to go to school together. We actually had like a school bus. That was really cute where we'd pick up everyone in the estate that went to that school and they would all go together. But then I would leave earlier because you guys finished later. Yeah, because we were in secondary school. Yeah, you went to secondary school and you finished later. Yeah. But I thought growing up with you was really fun, actually. Oh, this is the first time hearing this. Oh y'all, seriously. It was really nice because at least I feel like a lot of the things that a big sister would do in your life, like you were doing for me. Oh. So, you know, taking me to my first concert, yeah, you know, also introducing me to like makeup, yeah, introducing me to like clothes and stuff. Like, it was so nice to have that. And then, you know, here we are doing a podcast together.
SPEAKER_03:Doing a podcast together.
SPEAKER_04:Because we do love to yap, yap, yap.
SPEAKER_03:Ayawande is under the impression that she's not a yapa, and I just want I just want to set the record straight that she is indeed the number one yapper. Ayande talks more than I do.
SPEAKER_04:Actually, don't like talking. That's just not true. No, I don't like talking to certain people. Like, I think the environment has to be really right for talking, and there's certain people sometimes that just drain my energy so much.
SPEAKER_01:Like, I'm not gonna call our names on the podcast, obviously.
SPEAKER_04:I think you should. Um, but yeah, there's certain environments that like literally drain my energy, but it depends. Like, I I actually don't like yapping so much. I think you are just a natural-born yapper. This is what people have been saying to me. They've been finding I can talk about anything and everything. Yes, I think it's just I just really enjoy talking. Yeah. To people, I just enjoy talking in general. Yeah, and I think what this Christmas has taught me is that maybe I'm too friendly. Maybe I'm too friendly. Because there's no reason why, like, certain people feel the need to say certain things about yeah, exactly. To me, about me. Yeah, too, yeah. It's just a bit weird. But I will unpack that in a bit. I like that. Let's keep that thought. But anyway, for the why did we stop the Chatterbox podcast? Okay, you went somewhere. I like this. Why did we stop it? Do you want to answer it? And I want you to answer, and I'll see if your answer is the same as mine. Why did we stop that podcast? The thing is, I think like we first of all outgrew um that type of podcast where it was very much based on topics weekly, right? So what's happening, and we would talk about everything and anything that we just didn't care about. Do you understand? Yeah, you know, there were so many random episodes where we were talking about people that actually don't even care about. And most of the time, I didn't even actually even know what we were talking about. It was you that always telling me, like, oh yeah, this happened to Tyreek. I remember something. I remember vividly talking about something to do with like Kevin Hart. Oh, yeah. And both of us at the end of it were like, we actually don't care at all. So yeah. And then the second reason was obviously like distance and stuff. So you were in LA, was it 2022? 2022. I went to L in 2021, but you went to LA in 2021, yeah. And I was in London, um, and it was difficult to find time, I guess, with the time zones. Remember, and then I now went to Brunei for a bit. I'm so glad you said Brunei because I was gonna say Brussels. You were or whatever, Brundi. What's the other Burundi? What's that? No, no, no. What's the other thing? There's like so many different ones. Bahrain. I genuinely thought you were in Bahrain. Why do you wish you were in Bahrain? That's a nice place. My friend's not in Bahrain. I don't know if you've ever heard about Brunei. Where were you living? Were you living in like hotels or yeah, we're living in a hotel for like months? Um, so yeah, the distance thing is what caused, you know, that yeah, separation. And then just finding the time to record was challenging, and then you know, we kind of were like, oh, let's take a break. And then one month, two three months, turn to one year, turn to four years. But that was my take. I don't know if you had anything to add. I think it's the same thing.
SPEAKER_03:I think that we just kind of outgrew what we were doing on Chatterbox, and we just wanted to do more. And I think it just took us a really long time to figure out what more looks like.
SPEAKER_04:There were different iterations of this nonsense. There were different iterations of this new podcast.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and every year I wandy and I would sit down and talk about this, but every year it didn't come to fruition.
SPEAKER_04:It didn't come to fruition.
SPEAKER_03:But when you shout out to our number one fans, who?
SPEAKER_04:Number one fan. Oh, there was a lovely girl I met um at the Show Dem Camp concerts. As in recently, um, last year. And she came up to me and she was like, Oh my gosh, when are you guys coming back? Do you think you're a celebrity? Maybe a local champion. I can give you that. In Remo or where? Yeah, in Remo, definitely. But I did feel like a big girl when she told me that really she's nice. I actually know. I know her from the pod. She was always like responding to things in the previous iteration of the podcast. Oh, that's very cute. Yeah, but here we are. Here we are. Back again. Back again with our thing called life. So, what's our thing called life about? What do you what are we gonna be doing? We're just gonna be talking about our thing called life. I feel like the name is so apt. It is very apt because it's really just supposed to be like I think my favorite thing about Chatterbox, even though I keep talking about how we've outgrown it, right?
SPEAKER_05:But my favorite thing about Chatterbox is the fact that like it really does encapsulate like a good five years in our lives. I guess we were using it like to talk about like pop culture, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:But there were times where we used to talk about like life and things that we were going through.
SPEAKER_03:And I think like going back to listen to those five years is so like interesting. It is.
SPEAKER_05:Um, but now we've grown, yeah, and we are in like very different places in our lives, and so many different things are happening, and we really just want a place where we can just talk about you know this thing that we call life, yeah, and have people come on as well to talk about this thing that we call life, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And I think of it as like an archive of my late 20s, your early 30s, hello, yes, um, and the experiences that we go through. Um, and hoping that you know someone's listening to this and feels comforted knowing that someone is going through a very similar thing.
SPEAKER_03:I also like to point out that I'm actually 28. So this is also an archive of my late 20s, so just putting that out.
SPEAKER_04:No comments because I don't early 30s, who's that? No comments, sure. Comments, yeah. But I I think it's interesting that we've grown so much actually. We have do you think that you've changed as a person since 2022? Yeah, I think so. In what way? You know, just coming into your own in your 20s, right? Really becoming the woman you want to be, and stuff. Like, I dyed my hair, which I'm not even gonna lie, was one of the greatest things I did in 2025. Like just dyeing my hair, I'm feeling like, oh my gosh, I did what I wanted to do. I got a nose piercing, you know what I mean? Like I did so many different crazy things. Like what? I literally just said them. Okay, so the crazy thing for you was dyeing your hair and getting a nose piercing. Yes, okay, so far, at least the ones I can share. Good point. Yeah, um, so I think it's like super exciting how I've evolved. I think I call myself a recovering people pleaser as well. I have definitely recovered from that. You think you were a people pleaser? Handy. Why? Because I cared so much about what people thought and like making sure everyone around me was so happy. People or like the people that you cared about, like people, just in general, exactly. I did not wanted people to like me so bad. Really? Yeah. So I would literally, if I met someone and I, you know, I sense that they were very uncomfortable, I would be like, you know, doing everything I can't to make them feel more comfortable around me and stuff. Um, and it was just really weird and tiring and tasking as well. So, what what what was the point for you where you were like, oh, I don't want to do this anymore? I think it's just I just felt like this doesn't feel authentic to who I am. It doesn't feel real. I feel like I'm putting on an act, and I'm just like, I'm tired of putting on this act of nice and sweet and friendly, and oh my god, the person can't cover anything, and oh wow, she just did da da da da. I'm I was sick and tired of it. And I was like, I actually just want to live my truth, and I just want to live who I am, um, you know, and if that means that someone doesn't like me, then so be it. So I think I definitely evolved in that way that's good as a recovering people pleaser, thank God. Um, and then also, you know, work-wise, I've evolved. I've been working for five years, which is nasty at the same company, which is disgusting. Some of us have been working since 2016, yeah, but still like just at the same place. But like, shout out to my job. Thank you for holding me down, it does sustain me. Um, and then obviously, like relationships, you know, you've like had them all, had them all. Yeah, I've gone through a few, but not serious ones, but I just like been through a few, you know what I mean? Yeah, um, which was interesting to say the least. Let's unpack that. Um, do I want to unpack that? Actually, I don't mind, right? I think before, oh god, I think it's the relationship thing I've not evolved from. I haven't tell me I'm still trying to get to a better place. In being like what do you mean? Where do we even begin? From the beginning. I feel like I was dating just for to like tick a box, if that makes any sense. As in just to make myself feel better that I was desired. Oh god, are we gonna look emotional right now? Yeah, I think I was just dating, like, oh wow, someone actually desires me. But it wasn't like, do I actually like this person? Do I actually want to be with this person? Am I friends with this person? It was just all this person likes me, so I'll like them, right? Because I grew up in an environment where I wasn't desired, so then suddenly it was like, oh wow. What that means by you grew up in an environment where I grew up in an environment with is this an interview? No, no, sorry, like what's going on right now? Sorry, because it's not an interview, but yeah, I'm just asking. No, I'm just curious to know what you mean by that. Like, what does not being desired mean to you? Like, so when you grow up around white people, okay, and you are one of two black people in the whole space, yeah, and they take you to events with other white boys, yeah, and they tell you to go and mingle and mix, yeah. And all the white boys, not a single one is even checking for you. Were you checking for any of the white boys? Maybe like one or two. But then, like when you would see the off chance you would say black boy, you'd be like, Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. Yeah, but dude, those niggas weren't checking for you. Oh they were looking for the white boys. They were looking for the white babes, and your friends would be like, Oh my god, I kissed like three guys tonight, and you're just like, I literally didn't even, I didn't even lock eyes. Do you know what I mean? Like, you didn't even lock eyes with anyone. Yeah, so that was the environment I grew up in, yeah, and so you feel like, oh wow, like I'm just not desired, I'm not desirable, and everything. But then I turned like 17, 18, went to Nigeria, went clubbing, shut up vapors. I think that was like my first proper vapors was a great night. Shut up vapors, man.
SPEAKER_02:What a time. Sorry, but before vapors, when I still lived in Lagos, yeah, my last year when I left school, yeah, like Bacchus, what a time. That was the club.
SPEAKER_04:Bacchus was a great club. I don't know what's back. It was on Awolova Road, like old 57. Was it old 57?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, old 57.
SPEAKER_04:That's so wild. We had a time were you guys like underage? What is the right what is the appropriate age to go clubbing in Lagos? 18. Is there an age? There's an age. What's the age? I think it's 18. I was 15. No, but you were going for G11 and all those things, right? It's G11. I remember you guys took me, and that was when um, you know the skirts that were raining. What's mini skirts? No, but there was like a body corn skirts. Do you remember body corn skirts? I remember when I wore body corn skirts for that party. I felt so. So if I was 15, you'd have been what 12? No, I wasn't 12. I think I was like 14. Oh, this is before this is like, yeah, okay. You guys took me for that party. I remember.
SPEAKER_05:You couldn't have gone for G11, you were in London.
SPEAKER_04:Maybe I went for G12. I don't know. One of you. Yeah, but you guys took me. But anyway, anyway, we digress. Yeah, the the yeah, vapors was where I had my first like proper experience of like being desired, you know. Um, and people were like, Oh wow, who's this person? Like, my brother literally had to drag me out of the toilet of vapors because I was drunk. I vividly remember this. I literally one man was lips in my face, but anyway, I think after that, um, you know, I started to date more, mostly black men. Um you've not dated a non-black man, yeah. I know. So why do you say mostly maybe like other races? I'm trying to think. You've not dated a non-black man. I actually haven't too even in Bali. That was a black man with dreads. Loved that. Well, briefly loved that.
SPEAKER_01:Anyway, anyway, anyway.
SPEAKER_04:But that that that I don't even know how we're on relationships. I don't know how we got here. Well, yeah, because I was saying how like I had desirability, no, but then I was talking about relationships and how you haven't grown from them, is what you're saying. Yeah, I haven't.
SPEAKER_03:I actually don't understand what you mean by that.
SPEAKER_04:Again, I spoke about the desira desirability more English quality desirability, and then once you get past that, it's like okay, I have to actually set my own boundaries and find someone that actually takes my boxes and find someone that doesn't cross my non-negotiables. Do you understand? Do you feel like you found that? How about you?
SPEAKER_03:I'm single, yeah, I'm dating, I'm currently dating, uh-huh. And I'm I don't enjoy dating. Why?
SPEAKER_04:It's not fun. Really? It's not fun because I really just want to invest my time in one person.
SPEAKER_03:I don't have the bandwidth to do the same conversation with multiple people. Yeah, I'm so over it.
SPEAKER_04:And like I also just feel like I know exactly what I'm looking for. At least I think I know what I'm looking for. I had dating in your 30s like slaps. I'm only I'm a I'm a fresh 30-year-old. I've only been 30 for like four months. Okay, but does dating in your 30s slap? What does that mean? Because you know what you want.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I think it I think it makes things quicker. Yeah, like I think I'm I'm not I think when I was younger, and I think I also have that desirability thing, but I think we can unpack that later. I like this, but I think when I was younger, I used to just like date anyone who was talking to me. Yeah, like anybody who was talking to me, I'd be like, okay, I'm yeah, like let's just um attention, yeah. But I think at 28 my frontal lobe fully developed. That's late, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Um that's late. 25 is what it's about to happen.
SPEAKER_03:It didn't happen at 25, I can tell you that. 28, I just woke up on my 28th birthday and I was like, oh my god.
SPEAKER_04:Wow. Oh my god, yeah, and then changed. What are we doing at 28th birthday? You weren't there. Where was I?
SPEAKER_03:No, no, no, sorry, 28 was Crete. No, no, you was there, exactly. Sorry, yeah. I'm actually talking about 29. Oh 29 was when I made a decision. No, no, no, no, no. 28, my front will have developed, but 29 was when I made a decision that like I'm not doing this nonsense anymore. Yeah, and like not just because you're here doesn't mean I I want you or I need to be around you. Um and so dating now is really fun. But I just I don't enjoy it because I'm just like this oh, I don't have time for this. Like, yeah, I actually just want to meet that one person where I'm just like wow, amazing, great. Like, let's just do this thing, yeah. But now having to do this whole rigor rigor moral of like talking, and like, how are you?
SPEAKER_04:And what do you like? And what is your baby? And then like you feel about the first round of divorcees. No, like it's a genuine question. How do you actually feel about them? Which ones, though? Because you know that's the first round, yeah. But you know that there's the first round of a certain age, yeah, and then there's a first around your age. Do you think that you are open to dating them?
SPEAKER_02:Hmm. There's actually one I don't mind dating.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, like my are you serious? Because when he got married, I was like, damn. Like everyone was shocked. I was shocked. I don't know about everyone. Me, I was shocked, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I would date him.
SPEAKER_04:But the thing is, I feel like the girlies need to be open to the first round of divorces because if you think about it they didn't get it right. Oh my god, right, and so it's like they are now given a second opportunity and they know what they don't like, and they have gone into the realm of marriage and have experienced it, and they can teach you marriage, teach you you. Do you understand that? That's wild because that that person is not gonna get divorced again.
SPEAKER_03:How do you know? Have you not seen a three-time divorcee?
SPEAKER_04:Well, I'm just saying because honestly, you know, there's nobody on road. There's actually nobody on road. That's facts. Once these guys make money, which guys? The divorcees, no men. Oh man, once they make money, see, the I think the prime time is like 25 to 29. The moment they hammer like this, they're not checking for you anymore. That's really interesting. And when you say checking for you, what do you mean by that? They're not checking for babes that are on a career payment because they don't need it. They are looking for bodies. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_02:So, a career babe is not a body, is what you're saying.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, that's an angle. That's literally what you just said. Well, it'd be great to explore this with a man. I'm a woman. I don't know. Just saying. I have no clue. But I have been told that they don't love the career, babes.
SPEAKER_03:Someone said to me the other day, Yeah. Um, I was talking to her. This is a woman, an older woman. Yeah. And I was talking to her about someone that I'm exploring.
SPEAKER_02:Exploring. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And she was like, that you can't, like, you can't be picky. You know you're 30 now. Like, you have to just like take what comes your way. And I don't know if I believe in that. That is so toxic. I don't know if I believe in that. I'd rather be single and alone than to be with someone that And she she's of the belief that like you can make or you can. She's of the belief that like people are too picky these days.
SPEAKER_03:And that you can you can make any man into what you want. Oh I don't know if I believe that.
SPEAKER_04:You can make any man into what you want. Yeah. I don't like that. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I also don't believe in changing men. I don't hear things that I think.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. And I just feel like it makes it seem like men are can be molded, and I actually don't think they can. Like, especially a man who's like stuck in his ways. I know many of those, aka my cousin. Stuck in his ways. I'm telling you. No dead house shorts fired. But I don't believe that. And I think that's really toxic. And I don't think you should listen to her. I didn't, but you know, I'm excited for the person you're gonna find. I think you're gonna find an incredible human being. Oh, that's really nice to you. Because you are incredible. Oh anyone would be lucky to be with you. Oh that's so nice. Yeah, I appreciate it. Why would you say that? Yeah, because I just think you're really cool. Yeah, and I think like you know, you're the kind of person that I feel like you'd be a cool mom. And I feel like you'd be a really yeah, I think you'd be a really cool mom, and I think you'd be a really cool partner to be with. Like, I think so. I think you would make your person better. I hope so. Yeah, so I don't know if that's a good idea. That's not fair to say the same.
SPEAKER_03:I think I made them better.
SPEAKER_04:I think they made me worse. Ooh, yeah, exactly. Also, this is so cliche, like two women on the podcast talking about men. Because how did we even get here? And that actually wasn't even myself. That wasn't even I literally blame myself. The plan, I just wanted to ask that question because I've been thinking about that as well. The first round of divorcees, yeah, there's one I would date child if he becomes a million, really, but he's divorced, isn't he? Yeah, but he's dating someone. That was quick. Yeah, men move really quickly. They do. Also, uh never mind. I'll take that for the first time. Anyway, how do you guys feel about the first round of divorces? Please let us know. First round of divorces is and if you are dating one, please let us know. I want to know if my hypothesis is right, so to be honest with you, because I think we all need to be open-minded at this point. There's nobody, there's actually nobody, but do I don't believe that there is nobody people are getting engaged every day, B. Yeah, because they've been dating them since before the time. People are getting into relationships every day. Did someone not get into a relationship on the 30th of December? Actually, the 29th. 29th. Just to be very specific. But yes, oh my god, wow, just throw me out there. I'm in a relationship. Ha!
SPEAKER_02:I actually didn't even wasn't even talking about you.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, guys. I have a boyfriend. Oh wow! I don't think I've been on the podcast with a boyfriend. I have yes, you have. Oh yes, I was. Yeah, guys, that's so crazy. But my ex also has a girlfriend, yes, and he got the girlfriend for me, which is just a bit annoying. But like, anyway, I was seeing, but now I have a boyfriend, and he's super lovely, really nice guy. I'm so happy. Okay, yeah, because literally war. What the hell was that? Oh, like no, please. Oh, we love him though. Like, now you love him. Yeah, I didn't like him before. She didn't like him before at all.
SPEAKER_03:But now this is gonna be the first time he's hearing this. Is it? I didn't tell him I I've never told him I didn't like him.
SPEAKER_04:He also wants to be in the podcast so bad, and I'm just like, you're so embarrassing. I think he wants to be my friend so bad. I don't want to be your friend so bad. That's cute, yeah. Anyway, okay, maybe go. What's next on the docket? I don't know how we started talking about men, and I really hate that. No, because I wanted to know about your own relationship woes. Yeah, I don't have any relationship woes, but I wanted to speak about what we've been experiencing and where we have been in the past, right? Like life has happened. So I actually live in Lagos now. Yeah, that's crazy. Which is so wild.
SPEAKER_03:Although, when Iwandi was moving to Lagos, yeah, she told us, or those that believed that she was only moving for a year.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. But I didn't believe you. I just didn't think, well, okay, let's be very honest. I thought I was gonna be here for longer than a year. Yes, I knew that. Like, I didn't think I was going to be here, and I still don't think I'm going to be here.
SPEAKER_02:But I don't understand why you think that because you've always used to say that like I like Lagos is home for.
SPEAKER_04:And that was one of the reasons I broke up with my ex-boyfriend because he did not want to live in Nigeria, and I was like, that's awkward for you. In Brighton. Oh my god, yeah, you used to commute to Brighton. I did not. Yeah, you went there once or twice, a couple of times. Yeah, but he doesn't live in London, he wishes. Um, anyway, I moved to Lagos, but the thing about Lagos is like even sometimes, like I can't, I'm embarrassed that I live here. Why? Because it's such an ick. Like, you live in Lagos in your 20s. Like, do you know how many cool places that you can be living in the world? And you live in Lagos in this place.
SPEAKER_02:But that was a choice you made.
SPEAKER_04:It was a choice because you wanted to, yeah. But I still don't like to admit it to myself that I live here. Do you know what I mean? I really don't. Like, I'm I still think that I'm gonna leave. Because things Lagos are not running away. You can't move here when you're 30, when you're 17 and about to have kids. Like, why am I living here now? Do you know? Like, I could be in so many sexy places, but I'm in Lagos, like where? New York, Dubai, even freaking like Oman. You go to Dubai. I'm just saying Oman. You need to no, they've rebranded. It's really nice out there. Okay. I don't even like Dubai. I've never been. So you thought I was gonna live in like Singapore or something like that. You thought you were gonna live in Singapore. You know, I love Asia, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But like live in Singapore, yeah. I could I could see you living in China, I can see you living in China or Hong Kong. I can't see you living in China, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I can't see me living in China, or like a like a Hong Kong, a Hong Kong, yeah, but then China messed them up, it's not the same. But Singapore, I don't know about that. Singapore is like such an open, free place to live in. It's really nice. Never been, so I actually don't know. Anyway, I'm in Lagos now. I came here for a one-year stint that turned into two years, which has now turned into three. Um and you know, we'll see where life takes us. I am still very much open to moving to other places.
SPEAKER_02:Would you consider moving back to London?
SPEAKER_04:For the right amount of money. Money. And what is that? Like, you don't have to say the amount of I can say what's my own business. Um, what is the amount of money that will make you move back to London? And would you live at home? No, that's why I said the right amount of money like 250k minimum. What job is gonna be, Omar? What do you mean? Will you still stay at your current company? No, I'm just trying to figure out what company is gonna do. 250k yeah, their companies, they're there with bonus now. They are there, that's the only way because.
SPEAKER_02:But not in the industry you want to move into.
SPEAKER_04:Just putting that up there, yeah, which is why I'm just like, should I move? I don't know. Um, but for 250k minimum a year, I would do it. I would do that. Because then I could get flat in like zone two, three, okay, and I could really live the London life. Okay, but if I'm moving away with Bornwood, like I'm not moving. Sorry, but Bournemouth is actually great. We have East Enders, yeah. And you have Sky and Netflix, right? Netflix is not there, but there's Sky Studios. Netflix is going there, yeah, but it's not there now. We have Sky Studios, which is really great. I was gonna say something, but I don't want to say it. Say it. No, because it's to do with you. Say it. Yeah, oh yeah, your employer. Yeah, that's okay. Okay, guys. Well, we know that works out Sky. Yeah, she's gonna quit them. You can't say that. I am gonna quit. My manager already knows. Okay, yeah, she said her manager actually already knows.
SPEAKER_03:I was so I was going to quit in October because I was like, I'm moving to Lagos in December.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and then I didn't quit. Well, my manager messaged me one day, just be like, hey girl, like you know, the day to hand in your notice for your that last day that you want is today. Yeah. So, like, what's happening? And I was like, so nothing. But you know what the funniest thing is is the fact that um you were so close because you ended up working at some somewhere, which we will never name. Um worst place ever. One of your friends, when you told him where you were working, what did he say? He said, Ew, that place is so rasp.
SPEAKER_02:He said, Ew, why do you want to work there?
SPEAKER_04:And then he said, You won't last up to six months. Wow, and he was not wrong. He was not wrong because I did six weeks.
SPEAKER_03:Wow, yeah, and even the six weeks, nine days in, I was like, Yeah, I want to quit. And that was just I was still working from London. I wasn't even working in Lagos, I was working from London, and I knew that I didn't, I did not want to do this. But I think it's just kind of it's just kind of opened my eyes to like what working in Lagos could look like. I don't think that every company reflects that, yeah, but I do think that it's maybe maybe I was a bit naive to what working in Nigeria look like because I'm yeah struggling with working in London at the moment.
SPEAKER_04:What is the appeal of Nigeria? And I'm I'm so sorry, this is a question I'm asking myself. What's the appeal? Like, what is it that you think that for me, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I think for me, I'm craving change.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, I agree.
SPEAKER_03:So I feel like I'm I'm tired of London at the moment.
SPEAKER_05:And like I've lived in London, I've also lived in Nigeria. I've lived in both places, I think, for a semi-equal amount of time. I think I've lived in London a little bit longer than I lived in Lagos. Um but I'm just craving change. And when I lived in Lagos, I wasn't an adult. I was, I don't know, I remember how old I was when I moved here, but I was like in year one and I left at the end of secondary school. And so like it was very much like a Lagos under my parents' purview, right?
SPEAKER_03:And so, but I've come back every year since. I come back maybe twice a year, every year. And so it's just a bit like I'm just craving change. And I've tried America. I tried LA, yeah, it didn't work for me. Yeah, everyone keeps telling me that I'm gonna go back. I don't know about that. What carry means when you go back, so I don't think I'll go back to LA, but if I do go back, I I could go back to America, but I don't know if I'll go back to LA. Yeah, it's just so far away, and like yeah, it's a whole thing. Anyway, I'm just kind of I'm craving change, you know.
SPEAKER_05:I want to be in an environment that I just I feel very comfortable, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:And I feel like there is comfort in Nigeria, and I I do feel like there's a part of me that is a bit like naive because every time I come, maybe I come in December, yeah, and you know what December in Lagos looks like, or maybe I come in the summer, or maybe I come in Easter, yeah, but I know that I'm only here for like a short period of time, a short period of time, and so it's like I can get away with living in very sheltered, yeah, Lagos life.
SPEAKER_05:But do you know what it is though?
SPEAKER_04:I feel like there's like an energy that's here that makes you want to just create, do like ideates, and just you know, even your wildest dreams that you couldn't think about doing in the UK, like you can try to do it here. And I feel funny, it's funny that you say that because sometimes I talk to people that are doing that here and they are lamenting. Really, it's not easy, it's not easy, but then it's like you look around and you can find at least 10 people that are doing the same thing as you, not even in the same industry, but like are going through that hole and trying to create make my dream a reality, and so you create this little community of you that are like hustling and trying to figure life out in a space that, yeah, it doesn't work, there's no infrastructure and everything, but like there's a buzz around it, and I think like that that's like my vision for my third year in Lagos. It's like I just want to be around that energy. I do think we think we try, we do, yes, and we feel. I think that there is a spirit, there's there's a very big hustle culture, yeah, and there's a spirit of entrepreneurship.
SPEAKER_05:Yes, if you feel like you're an entrepreneur, I do feel like there's a part of you that will feel like you're being called to Nigeria because you're like but guys are not making money, man.
SPEAKER_04:They're not, you know that I'm aware. Guys are not making money.
SPEAKER_03:Although that person that I worked for, yeah, was charging people a ridiculous amount of money for paying a crazy amount, upwards of 60 M.
SPEAKER_04:It's a luxury service, huh? Yeah, but they weren't delivering the service, it's a premium, but they weren't delivering the service.
SPEAKER_03:My problem is that they weren't delivering the service, so it was all just like smoke and mirrors, it was all just being able to talk a good game, yeah, and that's something that I'm afraid of that people are getting away with with sub power under the guise of oh, but I'm a really good yapper. Wow, and people are paying for that ridiculous amount of money for that, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I know, and I just feel like again, you're so right, because I feel like in Lagos when you can talk your way with a little accent, give them a couple of things. All you need is like outs in a minute, or know one of those Lebanese. Yeah, you know, you can give them like, oh yeah. So when I was in the UK, um, now I was in England, but now I was in England speaking with the queen, yeah. And like the OBE I got. She's dead, she's so dead. R I P the Queen. When did she die? She's so dead. Queen in Lee. She's so good. When did she die? She's like two years, but I think I was in, I don't even know. I don't even know. I don't even know. The queen is actually dead. We know that good morning. Sorry, I'm sorry. We sing God save the king. We you don't live in England, babes. I'm British. I'm British. But anyway, I feel like you know, in Lagos, people are so washed by that um and by those little things. But also, I think it's a space where if you do something and you do it really, really, really, really well, you will find clients. Oh my gosh, she died on the 8th of September 2022. I knew it. She'd been gone for three years, maybe four. Yeah, four years now. King Charles is on his way to have you seen his fingers? What happened? What happened? They're like sausages.
SPEAKER_01:Oh god.
SPEAKER_04:I think he has cancer. Sorry. That's so sad. But at least we will live to see um become William King. I'm gonna say president, but we mean king. A lot is happening right now. A lot is happening. Um I was gonna ask you, what is your favorite thing about living in Lagos? That's so I love the weekends. I love the weekends. What happens on the weekends? Friday nights, you know where we are on Friday, you know where we are on a Friday. I only I think I'm gonna be honest. On the guest list, baby. You love being outside. I actually don't though. I think you do, and that's okay. I can't beat these allegations. You you do love being outside. I haven't been outside in like a week. That's a long time in December. When you're not official, like I don't know enough bowlers. I don't because I'm like in the club, stranded. Who's paying for my bill?
SPEAKER_05:You know, I think you like being outside and being able to fund your outside, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Like type of, yeah, but then it's giving it's just so awkward because I'm hearing people that are like, oh my god, I haven't spent a dime all December. And I'm just like, fuck you.
SPEAKER_02:So your boyfriend doesn't pay for your night out.
SPEAKER_01:Good morning, America.
SPEAKER_04:Oilala, hello, first of all, he doesn't even like going out. He doesn't like going out, he is such an indoors person, you know. But you know, guys in the lake, like the thing is when you're not stealing, you're not going to go and spend six hundred two one. If you're if you have a if you're not making a decent living, if you're making an honest exactly, you're not going to spend one name in the club, but or if you're not a Neppo baby, do you know what I'm saying? Or yeah, if you're not working in real estate, because real estate guys be outside, yeah. So there's one guy that just rebranded as a real estate guy.
SPEAKER_02:Everybody but he was on the sexual abusers list, so it's a bit awkward. Yeah. Who is this?
SPEAKER_04:I don't know his name. What's that guy called again? He is socialite.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know, but he makes all these videos about like this is what it's like to live in Victoria Island.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know who that is. Let me see.
SPEAKER_03:Oh no, no, no.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, oh. This is what it's like to live in Victoria Island, and then he's showing all these stupid apartments.
SPEAKER_04:And I'm like, yeah, but I feel like people can deduce who this is from what you just said. I don't care. Yeah. Well, anyway, what was it? Okay, it's my favorite thing about everything else is like the weekends. I really love how you can do so much on the weekends. Everyone's like around you as well. Um, and I love like, you know, people come in December and they're like so excited to go to these places, and I'm just like on a random Saturday, yeah. We are there, you know, we have done this, we have lived this, and it's been so much fun when you guys are not around. Oh um, but yeah, I do, I love, I love the weekends now that you've lived in Lagos for two years, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Do you hate when December rolls around?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Oh, I actually want to leave the country in December. So think about it, like my office forces me to take holiday in December. Ten days. I spent 10 days in this place with you people doing what. But it's really funny because that used to be you. I know, and I used to be so excited, and I used to like do all my shopping on Black Friday, get all my fits off, you know what I mean? PLT, all the vibes. PLT, Zara, all of them. Yeah, pretty little thing. Yeah, PLT. Come on. You didn't have money like that. We did love a PLT, but we didn't have money like that. Don't don't act brand new. I don't like PLT. I never anymore. I loved ASOS. You do you are so good at ASOS. Yeah, I love ASOS. I don't know how we guys, I literally don't know how that finds things. I've been using ASOS since I was in A levels. So you like knowing. ASOS knows me. Oh, it knows how to recommend things for you. Because like, guy, the things you'll be finding on that place, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't, I will be on the 35th bar. Yeah, no, and I will not find that thing. It knows what to recommend. Yeah, so like me and ASOS, we go together real bad. Although I feel like they're closing down. Oh, really? I heard something about them being bankrupt on the waves. That's a shit. No, okay.
SPEAKER_03:Although anyway, never mind. I was about to spill some really bad sky tea.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh, Clark!
SPEAKER_03:But I won't do that. I might just be fired. Yeah, yeah. I don't want to be fired.
SPEAKER_04:I want to quit. Yeah, you do. Two different things. Um, I was gonna say something because I feel like like time is running out because I did put a timer just to see. That's a good idea. Um, but I was gonna say for this, whoever's listening to this, um, first of all, thank you for making this far. Um, because we have been yapping about a bunch of nonsense. But Which wasn't actually on the plan. Yes. Um the whole point of this podcast is just to really like talk about things that we're interested in, but things like you guys want to hear about if you're going through all of this similar situation in the diamond. I was gonna say if you're in a pandemic, okay, but I meant a dilemma. Or if you're having a dilemma or whatever, um please let us know so we can discuss and talk about it because we probably are going through a similar thing. Um can I ask you a question? No topic is off um what's the word? Limit? Yeah, that's it. What would you say 2025 has taught you? That's not a question to wrap up the podcast, but I'll try and keep it brief. Okay. And short. Like your last relationship. Um anyway. Let me say this. Shots fired for no reason.
SPEAKER_02:Um it wasn't brief and short. Oh yes, it was.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, it was, it was, it was, it was.
SPEAKER_02:Um, it was short, but it wasn't brief. It was, it was short.
SPEAKER_04:It was a different thing. What was it? Well, how would I sum up? What would you say 25 is toward you? You have to be open to hearing about who you are from people who know you the best, and you have to be responsive to the things that they say about you, right? Because I feel like people get very defensive because they think like, oh my god, my character is X, Y, and Z. But actually, when people have spent enough time with you and they're actually giving you that constructive feedback, like, hey, you know, you do this thing a lot, and you know, it causes you X, Y, and Z. I think you need to like 25 told me to be open to what people have to say about you and like collect the data points and see if there's a lot of people. Oh my god, you sound like such a consult a consultant. Go by and then you see if there's a pattern here. So you think it's very easy to be offended when people are talking about like it is so hard. You and your character because in your mind you have an idea of like who you are and the kind of person that you want to be. Who you want who you want to be. Yeah. Who you think you are who you yes. But in reality, you might not be in that. It's very hard. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Cause like even yesterday, you know, when we're having that conversation and everybody was talking about like how I used to be as a teenager. Yeah. Like that was a hard thing for me to hear the first time she said it. Because I was like, Yeah, I didn't even realize that that was how how I was coming across. But like having to reconcile like who I actually was and who I thought I was being, yeah, was very difficult.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_05:Because I didn't think I was being such like a horrible older sister. Yeah. I think I was I was a teenager. I was trying to go through all those teenage emotions, maybe like talking to boys and having friend issues and like trying to get along with my parents, and I was really fighting with my mom a lot.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And then having a sister who is like so much younger than you. Yeah. So like I'm 16, she's six. And I'm like, I don't understand what our relationship is supposed to be like.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. It's supposed to be. Because, like, are you my friend? Are you my sister? Are you like, am I supposed to be like a surrogate mum? Like, and I feel like our relationship now is very much like friends, but also surrogate mom.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, exactly. Like, it's a really nice relationship. My mom tells her to ask me before she's like, before I'll say yes. It's a really nice relationship that you guys are building and have built. But it was hard for me to hear that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:The first time she told me.
SPEAKER_04:Because you have to realize they're just saying from a bad place. Yeah. They're trying to tell you out of love for you and wanting you to be a better person. Like, hey, you have this thing that you do. And I've actually had to have that conversation with my mom sometimes. Like, really? Bruh. Say her down, like sis. Do you feel comfortable talking to your mom about these kind of things? So now I just spring it up on her. I just spring it up on her. Yeah. That's actually your personality. It is. It is literally that is your personality. Yeah. But that's one of the things that 2025 taught me. And also, I think just like trusting your guts. Yeah. And that gut feeling that says, like, okay, this is the right decision. This is like the right thing to do. This is what the next step should be. And like just really listening to you. But anyway, I still stand by my ethos, my motto, live authentically. I literally am gonna get attacks on my body. Really? Yes, I am. Where? Somewhere. But live authentically in everyone. Maybe on your side. My side. Maybe on your back. My thigh. You said your side. Okay, because that would be nice. Your thigh? Yeah. That's Raz. So that's Raz. Anyway. What about you? What did your authority side teach you, I think? 2025 taught me to talk less and do more, which is what my 2026 motto is.
SPEAKER_03:Because I think what I did a lot of in 2025 was a lot of yapping. You're on a yanni. Yeah. I did a lot of this is what I want to do, but I didn't actually execute any.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I didn't execute a single thing that I said I wanted to do. Wow. Because of fear. I was too afraid. Yeah. Um, I was afraid of failing because I feel like I failed in a lot of things, which I think we can unpack in a later episode. In a different episode. But I feel like I failed at a lot of things. So I'm very afraid of actually executing because I don't want to fail again. But I think 2025 taught me that if you actually want to do, because there is a jealousy that hits when I see someone doing the same thing as me, I'm actually executing. And that jealousy is not nice, it's not a nice feeling.
SPEAKER_04:It's the worst feeling in the world.
SPEAKER_03:It's the worst feeling in the world. So I think 2025 taught me to talk less.
SPEAKER_04:But also, I truly believe like no one can do the thing you want to do the way that you want to do it. No one can do it the way you want to do it. Yeah. Absolutely no one. Because no one cares about it in that way. They care about it in a different way, but like the way you're gonna look at it, and the way you're gonna pressure is very different. Very different. So yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So that's what 2025 taught me. I don't feel I feel like 2025 was a transformative yeah because I turned 30. And I think I put a lot of pressure on turning 30. That when I turned 30, I had like a midlife crisis for like three, four months. Yeah. Because I was like, what am I doing?
SPEAKER_05:I'm 30 years old, I'm single, I live in my parents' home, like I'm working a job that I don't hate, but like I could be doing more. Um, I'm not making as much money as I thought I was going to be making at 30. Like, I don't own any of the businesses I thought I was going to own. Like, I'm just not doing the things that 16-year-old me thought I was going to be doing at 30.
SPEAKER_03:Um, which also made me realize that like I think I was also very naive at 16 to think that 30 was this like magnificent age.
SPEAKER_05:Um and so rather than look at all the like negatives, I'm just trying to be like, okay, you're 30. Now what?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Like, okay, so now what do you want to girl?
SPEAKER_04:I'm literally, like, literally when people ask me, I'm 25.
SPEAKER_03:And also because I turned 25 in COVID, technically I'm 28 because I lost two years of my life. So, really and truly, I'm not even 30 yet.
SPEAKER_04:Do you know what I mean? Like mentally, sure, but also physically. Okay, sure. Let's go with that.
SPEAKER_03:No, because COVID took two years, yeah. You know, 2021 and 2022. Yeah. So it took two.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, 2021 and 2022.
SPEAKER_03:2020, 2021, 2021, 2022. So it took two. Yeah. So technically I'm only 28. So even this whole 30 thing that I'm saying, it's only a technical because I was born in 1995 or whatever the girls say. Yeah, exactly. But I'm excited to see what the 30s hold and like what I can do.
SPEAKER_05:Hopefully, this is the decade that I like, you know, actually like build towards the things that I want to do and maybe get married and have children and actually see like you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Because I know a lot of people who are aunties who are not married.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and I that's something we should unpack in another episode. The whole like scary 30s, especially when you're single. Like how told me I'm single. You literally said on this podcast, but like how that feels like yeah, I kind of want to unpack that in a different different episode about the 30s, and maybe we can bring someone on to talk about that as well. Someone's like 35.
SPEAKER_05:But I also feel like we put a lot of pressure on ourselves to make 30 this like grand thing, yeah, because I feel personally that my 20s didn't really account for much. I know this sounds this sounds bad, not that it didn't account for much, but like I feel like it wasn't until I was 25 that I felt like I was actually making decisions for myself. So I feel like I only really lived five years of my 20s, and I put a lot of pressure on like turning 30 and feeling like, oh, when I turn 30, I'm going to like have all this wisdom and knowledge.
SPEAKER_03:And I don't know where I thought I was gonna get that from because like 29, like I slept at 29, I woke up at 30 and I was the same person. Yeah, um, I was just in a different country. Like it just it I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:It's why I'm such an advocate of taking life like six months at a time. I think I used to be so like bullish on five years, five year plan, and what do I need to six months, honey? What can I do in six months?
SPEAKER_03:My friend, my friend literally asked me, like, okay, so like what do you want 2026 to bring?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and then she goes, Okay, but like let's take it each quarter at a time. So at the end of Q1, what do you want to have achieved? Yeah, and I was like, This is what I want to have done. I want to quit my job, yeah, I want to have done this, I want to have done this, I want to have done that.
SPEAKER_04:She's like, uh, so let's work towards that. Exactly. I truly I I I think that really changed my whole mindset about this whole life thing. Um, but you know, our thing called life. Our thing called life. We'll figure it out one part at a time as we go along. So yeah.
unknown:As we go along.
SPEAKER_04:What happened?
SPEAKER_03:I was just checking the time.
SPEAKER_04:I even paused it because you started on your question, question I asked.
SPEAKER_03:I just like asking questions.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Is that an issue? No, it's not a problem at all. Um, oh, song of 2025, song of the year. Folded Kalani. Aww, that's really nice.
SPEAKER_03:That's my song of the year. That's really nice.
SPEAKER_05:And also with you, obviously, David, who is like our big bro.
SPEAKER_04:Gosh, we are getting David on the podcast one day.
SPEAKER_05:David, to me, I see I don't even want David doing, he's David. Yeah, and David to me is genuinely my big brother.
SPEAKER_04:He is my big brother, which is why I couldn't take a picture with him when he's also a bit rather like I'm not fancy. I was like, bro, guy, I don't need a picture. No, it's just you're my big bro. Yeah, like guy. He was like, Are you sure? Like, no, I don't need a picture, don't worry. Because you're my big bro. He reminds me a lot of your older brother. He does, he does, he does. Their mannerisms are exactly the same. I know. Um, what's my song of 2025? Um don't say something silly. No, it has to be Leon Thomas. That's my artist of 2025. But that is probably, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:What song?
SPEAKER_04:Ah, it's so hard. Yes, yes, it is. I knew you were gonna say that. Yes, it is. That's when I want to get active, when I activate, that's the song I'm put on. It's not even a hype song, but it's not a hype song, but it's the kind of song that you put on when you want to get active in a different way. Hmm. Bad decisions anyway. Um, yeah. This has been fun. This has been fun. Thank you guys for rocking with us. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you for rocking with us. We hope that you enjoyed this episode and we can't wait to see you in episode two. And you're not gonna plug the socials. Yeah, I don't know what our socials are.
SPEAKER_03:OTCL pod, right? I don't know. Oh god. Sorry guys, I don't know what our socials are.
SPEAKER_04:Next week we'll plug the socials and the email and the everything. Do we have socials? We have uh uh I said LinkedIn. Um we have an Instagram. Yes, it's a OTCL. It's called our thing called Life Pod. But maybe it should be OTCL podcast. Yeah, let's do OTCL podcast.
SPEAKER_05:Okay, yeah, follow us on social on Instagram if you don't already, because it used to be the chatterbox podcast. Yeah, but follow us on OTCL Podcast.
SPEAKER_03:Um, our email is otcl podcast at gmail.com. Yeah, we're on Instagram, we're not on Twitter, because Ayawandy and I are not on Twitter. I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_04:We might be on TikTok soon, huh?
SPEAKER_03:We might be on TikTok, and um yeah, stay tuned for episode two. And we can't wait to see more. No, we can't wait to talk more.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. Also, I just want to point out that we were drinking before we started recording this episode. What a nightmare! What a nightmare! Yeah, but you know what? It was good, it was really fun. It is what it is. I really like this. Me too. Thank you for rocking with it. Shout out to our producer, shout out, shout out, thank you so much.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you guys for listening, and we will see you in two weeks for episode two.
SPEAKER_01:Yay, bye guys.